@Mr SP: Just to clarify, M$ saw ALL its 360 sales from me (150+ discs, 40+ XBLA, various add-ons) because the 360 had OXB BC. Sometimes, BC sales aren't direct, and most BC-lovers are early adopters, collectors, and the people in their peer groups who will preach/condemn a new console.

[url=#user_comment_296860]@Chief[/url]: In short term yes. In the long run however everybody is getting fucked. Except the shareholders. They can bail anytime the going goes rough. Which is where the true problem lies, as in people who have no idea about gaming (nor do they care) are making the important decisions.

@Persona.: He's right. Backwards compatibility is often pretty expensive - mechanical is better than software emulation - and it's not as if Sony will see sales from it's old games if it offers it. However, Gaikai may be an affordable alternative for Sony, if they managed to get it up.

[url=#user_comment_296702]@Alex[/url]: I believe Steam has recently implemented just that: You can only find half of hte cards for your first set, and you need to either trade for or buy (in the community market) the rest of the cards. It's not a console, you don't HAVE to play games, and you pay for your achievements.

[url=#user_comment_296905]@Bropocalypse[/url] Tell me about it: http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=SNE

Xbone is the best advertising Sony could have asked for

[url=#user_comment_296860]@Chief[/url]: baseless statements. Pull up a proof out of your ass next time. Or better, from Google.

@No.: Actually they lose money on adding backwards compatibility. End of story.

So, eventually I'll need to upgrade my gaming rig. Boy, I hope the new rig is backwards compatible!

[url=#user_comment_296757]@AckAckAck[/url] - "superior gold race" and "Hooligan thugs" don't cancel each other out - it combines perfectly to belittle the peasants of console gaming. :P

My god, they actually DID it?! I knew there was the potential for total thievery from Xbox live, but I didn't really think they'd go through with it! Thank GOD I stayed with the Wii and Steam, at least I don't have to buy what I already freakin bought!

Screw irresponsible DRM-happy companies.

[url=#user_comment_296823]@Alpharius[/url]: "Moving forward" shouldn't mean dropping support for *arguably better* games. It's lazy design, end of story.

Nintendo may not have a lot of faith in their products, but after winning the last war, and improving their third party support, more so than before, it looks like the "war" will be between them and Sony.

Bayonetta 2. Hahahahahaha. Oh, I can't wait for that to come out. The fun to be had.

I do miss the support for my Game Cube games, but I do have my old Wii and Game Cube for that. They are small consoles, so easy enough to store.

The XBox One's design makes me think of 90's sci-fi designs. Something I'd see on plastic toys. Kinda cute.

[url=#user_comment_296757]@AckAckAck[/url]: When Steam first came out, I stayed away treating it as a horrible program. I've come around after years of good faith building (sales and solid reputation does that). I wouldn't have bought my first or second PS2 without backwards compatibility. I'm happy the Wii U does for the Wii.

[url=#user_comment_296757]@AckAckAck[/url]: Actually I spend my money only on indie and a few other games (like witcher, metro and other 200% awesome stuff) because AAA and many other games are not only more expensive, they are also bland and only serve as cashcows for megacorporations.

The reason 360 games won't be compatible is because the XBO needs to move forward for bigger and better games. If they had to include all the software that 360 games need, it would be bloated, both physically and internally.

Yeeeeaaaah. Fuck the new X-Box. And possibly the new PS4. I've got my gaming PC, so I'll be fine for the next generation. They have no games that I absolutely need to play.

[url=#user_comment_296708]@mrtt[/url]: Achievements are just empty e-peen. A simple kill switch will erase them.

Even if Win 7 isn't straight compatible backwards, you can download a free software to make it compatible(read: emulators or dosbox).
Consoles are becoming more PC which is not good thing, for consoles. The uniqueness is only reason to play with console instead of PC.

PS4 will also not be backwards compatible.

People like that deserve to be placed inside a dark mansion chased by mentally shattering monsters.

Tho worst part is people actually pirate games from small time developers who depend their income from game sales. That's why companies like Friction games almost went bankrupt twice making Amnesia and an asshole decided to pirate their review copy on Day 1 launch. Nice going asshole. cont...

people pay whatever they want people tend to grab it for free and it's even pirated! so much for PC gamers being "superior gold race" and more like "Hooligan thugs."

cont...

Origin is a DRM

Steam is a DRM (and people treat it like Origin when they appeared for the first time)

Gamersgate is a DRM

Stupid DRMs like limited installs.

Maxis' SimCity always online requirements.

The sad part is when someone had a goodwill to sell their game by letting cont...

Everyone here who crusading for PC by belittling consoles forget that PC gaming has a ton of problems too. Let me see....

Ubisoft and it's problematic DRM U-Play. U-Play installed backdoor to our PC without our consent. When people found out about it Ubi try to play dumb.

cont...

[url=#user_comment_296708]@mrtt[/url]: how about porn ads

Achievements represent a time investment of the player, a sunk cost that they are emotionally going to want to keep. Losing that will make them quit.
Everything else is a money investment of the player, something microsoft wants them to waste more of (by entrapping them with achievements)

And I liked old Engie more

I have awesome business idea. Console-less console. People just pay for achievements.

Anyone else notice the slight changes in the character designs? I like them, personally. I just think Engie's beginning to look a bit too...masculine. She needs to be more feminine.

The more I hear about the Xbox one, the more terrible it sounds. I'm not touching this thing with a ten foot pole.

[url=#user_comment_296588]@Dusk[/url]: Windows 7 has XP-mode.

[url=#user_comment_296622]@Failstorm[/url]: And then they chose linux :D

[url=#user_comment_296616]@Zero[/url]: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=65196 you are welcome

So.....you'll have bunch of achievements on games not playable on the console.

I loled.

Step 1. Infiltrate the console gaming market
Step 2. Take over a majority of the player base
Step 3. Crush console gamers trust in console platforms by pulling this shit
Step 4. All console gamers abandon console gaming for PC gaming
Step 5. ???????????
Step 6. Profit

[url=#user_comment_296583]@PCGAMERNUMBER2974244425[/url]: As much as I defend PCs, even I have to confess I haven't been able to run Starcraft since I got Win7.

Keeping achievements is nice but come on, not being able to play Xbox Live games? I mean, that's just stupid because it will stop people from upgrading to the new console.

finaly no more ugly engie

Getting better with this new style for her face. You must be practicing it a lot?

New style is looking good, Jo!

[url=#user_comment_296584]@Comment[/url]: Pretty much sums up what Microsoft knows about their audience.

[url=#user_comment_296586]@Dagoth[/url]: You're right, pal. I've never got any problem while using for a loooong time windows xp, but now with 7, new games run like silk, but everytime I tried to install my old games (like Kotor 1 & 2), well it's a bit of an "Odyssey" to try and making them work properly.

[url=#user_comment_296583]@PCGAMERNUMBER2974244425[/url]: Games made for Windows XP are pretty notorious for not running all that well on Vista and 7. Not to an unplayable degree most of the time, there's generally ways to get it working, but it's not as smooth as Install > Play

at least now I know why I don't play Games for Windows Life games anymore.

Same here, i have no problems launching a 15 year old game on mine W7 64bit without using an emulator but i do have to say some games have the problem of not launchin on "some" settings but then again this also happens with some of the "new" tittles, i think Kotor had problems like that.

[url=#user_comment_296577]@HarshTruth[/url]: I have no idea what you're referring to. [url=#user_comment_296583] @PCGAMERNUMBER2974244425[/url]: I hear it's an "uphill battle" getting Windows 7 to play certain old games. Specifically, in reference to Quake III - there was a workaround, but it was odd, and the default installer wouldn't work.

Penis.

@Mr SP: I can run pretty much anything on my Windows 7.

So yeah, shut up.

@Mr SP: Your birth was a crime

@Prof. Luigi
Like I said, I can't keep them. I'll trade in for a new console, once they stop putting out good games on the PS3, and I stop playing it. And, like I said, that's not going to be for a year after the release, at the earliest. (Though I'm a PS gamer, not an Xbox gamer.)

[url=#user_comment_296471]@JunWasHere[/url] You think PCs are backwards compatible? While it's less severe, with every generation of OS, and every new piece of technology in your hardware, more and more games become less and less natively compatible. It's only emulators that probably work... and they're a crime.

@Mr SP: Since you don't have space to keep all of your games around, how will you have space to get the new Xbox One to play all your Xbox One games and your old Xbox/Xbox 360 to play their games?

I don't have the space - hard drive or shelf space - to keep most games around. No backwards compatibility is just one more reason to wait a year until buying a new console, which is their problem, not mine.

I have to admit... keeping my Trophies is sort of important. I'd really like if there was at least some form of backwards compatibility... But, seriously, I haven't got anything left of many of my games other than my Trophies.

So what? Not like you can play Dota 2 on the Xbox One anyways..

...Tentacle fingerguns?

You can even use your old SDTV because the XboxOne only has an HDMI cable for Tv Connection.

And lo, they lost me!

No matter if you are an uber-fans of Microsoft, the next xbone is a big no.

For everyonw siging the praises of the PC remember that MS and especially Apple would like it to be as restrictive as consoles when it comes to games. i.e only through their store and they get a cut. So remain vigilant.

AAAnnnndddd. Next gen belongs to PS3 and PC probably...

Eehhhh, XMPP was a meh protocol anyways. IRC's still king for a reason.

nvm, they've already removed xmpp... bitches...

Achievements are free, gamepads not...profit!
@nr 17:
Google replaced google talk with hangouts, their own protocol and they will remove XMPP from gmail - an attempt to push their own(not standardized/used by the rest of the world)protocol to gain monopoly and become gayass company like apple/EA

[url=#user_comment_296475]@Zero[/url]: You said it, pal! I couldn't agree more with you.

[url=#user_comment_296475]@Zero[/url]: At least Sony is fucking trying... but barely... Hey, at least the WiiU is good.

I, and pretty much every other PC gamer out there, have been anticipating the spectacular market crash that this console generation will probably trigger. Consoles are so far behind PCs is pathetic. Only Nintendo knows what they're doing.

Basically microsoft is targeting the "bro" audience... Yeah, nice joke.

lol. Everyone should just switch to PC.

Last I checked, new consoles can't use games from an older console, right? Or did gamers come to feel entitled to more?

To me, it seems like the XBox1 is focused more on improving gaming as a socially-accepted part of life, not just the gaming itself.

Your tears are delicious, console peasants.

That's messed up.

[url=#user_comment_296431]@Guybrush20X6[/url]: The back and top aren't straight anymore. It's less "boxy".

It would have been hilarious if they hadn't kept achievements, after spending the last generation turning gamers into achievement hunters.

Ah Yes, my precious achievements shall forever be there, you shall all know I got the happy ending of Lollypop Chainsaw and looked up her skirt, and that I played the Orange box and found out the cake may not be a lie...

Can't quite but my finger on what's different but nice job on Engie-Tan's hair.

Death to Ea and Microsoft. Long live GOOGLE.

I guess there's one good thing that came with XbONE: Loads and loads of joke material.

And then there was only Sony and Nintendo...

Don´t worry blackeye - I seemed to see it. Later I could report that it was something I saw :)

Wooo! Microsfot!

noone seem to saw the microsFOt... hmmm

And that, my dear friends, is why we need to find a cure for cancer.

@Nekmata - Very perceptive!

And the O's in NERFNOW.COM are colored in.

Typo in the dialogue for Engie in the second panel.