@Random Dude: Well, if he's gotten it at the five minute mark, then he was crazy efficient farming, and if he needed the gold he would've spent 1.9k gold on something more reliable. He clearly is going for an EXP advantage, probably an invoker rolling carry or something, but clearly bodes poorly.

[url=#user_comment_338415]@Marabunta[/url]: Except for metagame, haha nope.

@Rice: Actually 190 gold. Again, Midas effectiveness depends on how devoted you are at farming and compared to Tread less useful for aiding teamfights.

[url=#user_comment_338415]@Marabunta[/url]: Except for the meta stuff, nooope. @Rice: Actually 190 gold. Again, you now farm faster, but also lacking in term of stats (except AS, which as i pointed out b4 its a big deal for some). Theoretically, its more useful for safe farming, less for aiding teamfight.

@Random Dude: also, it's 150 more gold per instant kill, for every 100 seconds.

@Random Dude: 1900 might seem to be a huge amount of gold for nothing, but like i said, compare it when you have power treads and 500 gold and hand of midas. which do you think will help you farm faster from this point onwards.
midas is instant, which means no longer need to hit enemies.

@Random Dude: cause LoL is what DotA2 never tried to be: repetitive, boring, forced metagame and grinding heroes.

[url=#user_comment_338384]@Baturinsky[/url]: The carry is Nature's Profit, of course.

So? Midas only let them get xp faster than usual + 30 AS (big deal for some heroes, not so much for others) for friggin 1900 gold.

Also funny to read comments below, where Dota and LoL supremacists taking potshot at each other.

Midas is just 1900 vs threads 1400. Also, Midas is for Junglers, not Carries.

... and than Void dresses in office clothing, and dance around in bars.

I cut down creeps, I eat some trees, I go back to the base!
On Wednesdays I go shopping, and get stuff to save my face!

...ummmmm.........okay?

meanwhile the top lane enemy carry got first blood through harassing and baiting instead of last hitting...

37 cs in 5 mins is sick! 8 creeps a minute means 40 creeps by 5 mins, so he got 37/40 creeps, which is monstrous my pub standards.

cause with midas, you now have money to buy wards WHILE being able to buy other stuff that you wouldnt have been able to.

only reason its not gotten, is cause another utility item could have been bought instead like mek or force. however if your team can manage without those, then go for it.

thus for item dependent(carry) heroes, midas can be a pickup in order to get the strong items faster. exp is a small bonus.
and for level dependent (supports), midas can be a pickup to gain higher levels for your skills to really hit hard. on the flipside though, money is a big bonus for them.

cont.
because of those 2 things it does(190 gold and 1.5 exp), you end up having two routes to go:
either use the active on normal/small creeps to gain more gold thus getting lategame items at an earlier date.
or use it on the largest creep to gain the most exp and thus higher levels.

[url=#user_comment_338353]@Dedic[/url] actually it pays itself by 8 minutes, after that its going to really help you gain a good lead. in fact, midas is actually viable on every hero heck even supports. the fact that midas has 2 things it gives is what makes it viable on supports, just look at some pro games.

[url=#user_comment_338363]@Zeb[/url] if you talking about harassing in lane, everyone already did that since 6 years ago in WC3 dota. Denying also count as harassing enemy exp.

[url=#user_comment_338363]@Zeb[/url] except that you know, you can do the same in dota 2. the carry and/or his support can still harass the enemy to either kill them or scare them away.

hey Jo, remember that comic strip you had about storm spirit going to the gym and morphling there?

well look at what happened now ;)
also pic relevant:
http://img.zmrgame.com/dota2/newlist/201307031750574778.jpg

Unless of course, you actually harm the other player. Which is how it works in League.

You skillshot the other, hit lane creeps, and deny them by making them return back to either tower or base.

You know, actively playing beyond hitting creeps?

You see, in swimming events, there is competition.
In last hitting in LoL, there is not. You cannot deny a last hit.

blackAngel: Actually, it's like showing off a gold medal in a team swimming match as opposed to a basketball match. DOTA supremacists are for lulz.

There's nobody to compete in LoL, since the enemy can't deny the creeps. Talking about CS in LoL is like showing off your gold medal in a race where you were the only contestant.

By the way, water cooler Meepos is for fucking win. :D

300 in 20 here, in League. It is League and not DOTA but Froggen may be the best CS'er in any MOBA anywhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeH9Y-NEXs

Jo, you are the god of MOBA humor. Please play League with us!

Midas isn't really good for farming, it only works every about 75? seconds and costs 1400, so it only pays for itself 10 minutes in, so your not getting as many good items early in the game, the reason you get it for carries is because of its other ability, the destroyed creep gives 2.5 times mo xp.

[url=#user_comment_338345]@bodmans[/url]:faceless void(guy in suit) is a carry which needs items to be effective. five minutes into the game, he has power treads which costs 1400(2x 450+500). hand of midas on the other hand costs 1900(500+1400). That 500 gold difference doesn't seem to be that bad, however, hand of midas is an

ei... my first post of the 3 is missing?

cont. while power treads on the other hand is just boots that speed up your movement and attack speed a bit.

cont. item which can transmute any creep for 190 gold every xx seconds. each lane creep is around 40-49 gold and neutral creeps vary but only ancient creeps gives the same amount of gold when killed. and transmute is instant.
so in short Hand of Midas is an item which can speed up your farming

[url=#user_comment_338345]@bodmans[/url]:faceless void(guy in suit) is a carry which needs items to be effective. five minutes into the game, he has power treads which costs 1400(2x 450+500). hand of midas on the other hand costs 1900(500+1400). That 500 gold difference doesn't seem to be that bad, however, hand of midas is an

[url=#user_comment_338345]@bodmans[/url] Hand of midas is a item that costs 1900 gold which is fair bit of cash for 5 minutes. also helps you get a ton of cash. Therefore Mister purple-noface is gonna having a difficult match. Rest of comic is just him comparing Being dota to a 9-5 job. I guess that is the gist of it.

This is the reason why... I don't understand the friggin comic

could a dota player elaborate?

Jo, you've gotta hurry up and post a diretide comic :O
http://www.dota2.com/threespirits