[url=#user_comment_351003]@Geary[/url]: Remember, discussion and suggestions are ok, bitching is not.

http://www.zenofdesign.com/my-artistic-freedom-is-fine-thank-you/ Case and point.

Oh, yes, when Forbes and Breitbart support your side, you know you're in the right. Even when literally every game developer, game journalist, and Times fucking magazine see through what is clearly a harassment campaign.

[url=#user_comment_350998]@rev[/url]: Quite the good read, i enjoyed it a lot thanks for the link.

Gotta admire the 1-man crusade shitting up the comment section of a webcomic.

Erik Kain's take on all the bile and histrionics.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/09/04/gamergate-a-closer-look-at-the-controversy-sweeping-video-games/

[url=#user_comment_350988]@Geary[/url]: The way i see it is that there is no debate only trolls and extremists from both sides feeding them while the real issues are being ignored.

[url=#user_comment_350987]@McMoose[/url] The debate is between progress and status quo. Not pick a side is, in of itself, picking a side.

[url=#user_comment_350985]@Geary[/url]: Sure i'll stop but i hope you understood what i meant, have a nice day good sir :). ps: I am not taking sides in this fight, imo both are vitriolic and can't be reasoned with.

[url=#user_comment_350985]@Geary[/url]: Guess you haven't seen the "League is better than DotA 2 because x and DotA 2 is shit bcause Y" drama queens. They are also crusading and should take their shit with them and go away as well.

[url=#user_comment_350984]@McMoose[/url]: Then you might want to stop. :P

[url=#user_comment_350980]@Geary[/url]: Remember, discussion and suggestions are ok, bitching is not.

[url=#user_comment_350968]@McMoose[/url]: I wasn't aware NerfNow!! had a 'no breaking the circlejerk' rule. I also haven't seen anybody seen of 'crusading' when fighting over League and DOTA

[url=#user_comment_350967]@Geary[/url]: Because they are only agreeing with the author of the comic, you are free to disagree with them but please, you are obviously trying to create drama here, it doesn't take a genius to see that.

[url=#user_comment_350954]@JakTheFifth[/url]: "Stop pointing out how total bullshit our indignation is. ;-;" Funny how nobody said that anybody blindly agreeing with the comic was 'on a crusade'.

[url=#user_comment_350949]@Geary[/url] You are on a crusade. As[url=#user_comment_350953] @McMoose[/url] said, this is not the place to stir up shit, if you want to do that then just go somewhere else.

[url=#user_comment_350949]@Geary[/url]: Tbh I don't Take sides in this load of bull because of how silly this "internet fight" turned out. Both sides are equally bad and i don't want any of this quarrel on nerfnow of all places. And so i will extend my wish to not only you but the others as well to go away. Happy now?

[url=#user_comment_350949]@Geary[/url]: Tbh I don't Take sides in this load of bull because of how silly this "internet fight" turned out. Both sides are equally bad and i don't want any of this quarrel on nerfnow of all places. And so i will extend my wish to not only you but the others as well to go away. Happy now?

[url=#user_comment_350943]@McMoose[/url]: Yes, I'm the one crusading. Not the dudes going on a literal crusade against women in gaming and anybody connected to them, but the person pointing out it out for what it is.

[url=#user_comment_350939]@Geary[/url]: Yours seems to be firmly planted somewhere else... ANYWAY this isn't the place to stir up shit so take your crusade with you and go away.

http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/09/10/spamming-doxxing-and-sockpuppeting-4channers-dirty-tricks-straight-from-their-irc-log/ Here's a megapost that should clear up any misconceptions for anybody whose fingers aren't planted firmly in their ears.

[url=#user_comment_350895]@Frost[/url][url=#user_comment_350935] @rev[/url] https://twitter.com/a_girl_irl/status/507559955919294464 BOY HOWDY THAT SURE LOOKS LEGIT. [url=#user_comment_350902] @Marabunta[/url] You literally just made a comment about Zoe Quinn before declaring no female developers got harassed.

[url=#user_comment_350890]@Geary[/url]: Yup, #NotYourShield is totally fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqBdCmDR0M

I've always seen these stories as a deflection from real issues. I remember back when they pulled this same shit on D and D players. They even tried to blame Goth kids once for a school-shooting just because the kid or kids wore dark clothing. Of course gun control is never mentioned.

Feminist outrage trolls troll for outrage. People (male and female both) finally get sick of it. News at 11.

For gaben sake, Joe. Look at what you done! You brought in #Gamergate tin foil hat wearing conspirators in here!

[url=#user_comment_350890]@Geary[/url]: What woman that makes video games got harassed?

@Kilgore Trout: This isn't even about Zoe Quinn anymore!

**** the crime section, politics are far less bile-encrusted than the game stories lately...

[url=#user_comment_350895]@Frost[/url]: Reading comprehension is not your forte is it...? That's not even close to what he actually said. But yea, the crux of the whole Zoe Quinn matter is that the person she had a relationship with at the time (and that's what it was) never reviewed anything by Zoe Quinn. Smoke and mirrors.

Finally, even if you believe the very worst things being said about Zoe Quinn, she would still be FAR from the worst person in the games industry. For example, the people who got a reviewer fired because he panned "Kane & Lynch"? THOSE people are WAY worse than Zoe Quinn.

[url=#user_comment_350890]@Geary[/url]: When I say something hysterical, that's not your cue to one-up me. Is this a contest? All those minorities who disagree with you are actually 4chan users in fake accounts? Uh... UH... Have you heard about how Jews are actually Lizard people? (nailed it)

[url=#user_comment_350871]@Xenosphobatic[/url]: There is no "us vs. them". I don't care if somebody likes the same games I do, if they make death and/or rape threats they are going too far and I am not going to support them.

[url=#user_comment_350890]@Geary[/url]: What's your favorite flavor of Kool-Aid, Geary? Mine is grape. I guess I shouldn't have expected anything different from you. I'm sure every single person using that tag is just from 4chan, right? Nothing says Social Justice Warrior like dismissing minorities who disagree with you.

[url=#user_comment_350871]@Xenosphobatic[/url]: There is no "us vs. them". Look, a lot of gamers are decent people, but a lot of gamers are also assholes. Decent people deserve me siding with them, but assholes don't, and I'm not going to side with somebody because "they're a gamer too!" Not if they are also an asshole.

[url=#user_comment_350875]@AckAckAck[/url]: That's how I feel as a Canadian too. Going "meh" and moving on with my life, that is, except for time when this subject is brought up and I feel like responding to stuff that's been said. Which I'm going to do with my next comment...

(Also, as a note, #NotYourShield is even MORE fake than #GamerGate, given most of the people tweeting it are shiny new accounts and the tag originated on 4chan.)

[url=#user_comment_350882]@Frost[/url]: Shockingly, articles about misogynistic gamers were written after misogynistic gamers spent a month harassing a woman for having the audacity to commit infidelity while also being a woman who makes games.

[url=#user_comment_350885]@SpaceBunny[/url]: Don't seriously try to pretend #GamerGate is anything about corruption in games journalism. It's been thoroughly proven the entire affair was concocted to harass Zoe Quinn and anybody associated with her until they left the industry.

[url=#user_comment_350885]@SpaceBunny[/url] [citation needed]

[url=#user_comment_350875]@AckAckAck[/url]: That's not true at all. Don't pretend like you all don't have problems so you can bash America for no reason.

attempt to pin the problem on gamers, labeling all of us as a bunch of “white misogynistic nerds” among other things. The fact that some of these “big names” are tied to said media outlets in question also adds to the fact that their journalistic integrity is questionable.

@Edray Aronbay: It's more the fact that they themselves are putting their names out there in an effort to retain public attention when the focus has shifted away from them. It's what narcissism is. The real problem is the revealed bias and corruption we're seeing from game journalism and their >

Gaming should not require it's enemies to be systematically destroyed. These girls who allegedly corrupt gaming get comeuppance on a scale reserved for war crimes. I see lots about Zoe Quinn but I don't even know the name of the guy she supposedly banged... that's kinda weird, isn't it?

[url=#user_comment_350865]@Geary[/url]: "Thoughtful" articles that suddenly come flooding out after a gaming journalism scandal. What a coincidence! #NotYourShield

groups on this planet, represented by people of all genders, skin colors, sexual preferences, and more. A small faction of extremists and their white knights should not determine the future of gaming as a whole. #notyourshield #GamerGate Be informed.

light is ironic, but that they continue to use the situation to further their own disreputable agenda is distasteful at best, especially as more information comes out about their misuse of power, money, and what they might call “fame.” Gamers are not dead, they're one of the most diverse >

@ Geary : I agree, this is an important discussion. After all, corruption and misrepresentation in game journalism and development is an important topic for the future of gaming. That the misbehavior and misdeeds of certain individuals who were entangled in such shenanigans have brought this to >

[url=#user_comment_350865]@Geary[/url]: I agree, this is an important discussion. After all, corruption and misrepresentation in game journalism and development is an important topic for the future of gaming. That the misbehavior and misdeeds of certain individuals who were entangled in such shenanigans have brought this to >

[url=#user_comment_350865]@Geary[/url]: I agree, this is an important discussion. After all, corruption and misrepresentation in game journalism and development is an important topic for the future of gaming. That the misbehavior and misdeeds of certain individuals who were entangled in such shenanigans have brought this to >

It's pretty hilarious to see all the negative news and how butthurt people sending death threats to journalists/bloggers. They are all originated from American media. Meanwhile gamers in Europe and Asia are like "Meh" and go on with their life.

[url=#user_comment_350865]@Geary[/url]: I agree, this is an important discussion. After all, corruption and misrepresentation in game journalism and development is an important topic for the future of gaming. That the misbehavior and misdeeds of certain individuals who were entangled in such shenanigans have brought this to >

@Kilgore Trout: But it won't. They've decided, and so have we. Pick a side, there is no going back.

Where's engie?! I miss her. Also I have a name for her. Ok here it is: Rose. Please bring her back, it's not the same. :(

[url=#user_comment_350865]@Geary[/url], You clearly haven't been following gamergate closely them. The hashtag #notyourshield was created by minority gamers who were tired of the journalists using them as a shield to push their agenda. The articles pushed that it was only ciswhiteboys and it clearly isn't true.

Look at the number of criminals that were drinking water ! Far more than those plaing video games ! Fear the real causes !!!

I'll start worrying about this stuff when people begin judging me just for playing video games. Like "Oh, you play video games, you must be a misogynist who makes horrible threats, get away from me." So far that hasn't happened, so I'm just gonna wait for this to blow over.

Furthermore, if we want video games to be considered an art and not just an object for consumption, then this is what comes with the territory. Art gets critiqued, and art isn't judged purely on 'mechanics'. Would you read a review of a movie or TV show that only talked about its cinematography?

...a medium that they love and grew up with. Dismissing thoughtful articles as 'clickbait' just because you didn't read them and the title upset you is dishonest at best.

Jo, I usually like your opinions, but it's very clear this is coming from ignorance on your part. All those 'gamers are dead' articles are about how the identity of gamers as being immature straight, white, cis men is dying as women and minorities speak up and speak out about problematic aspects in

i only check dates for games and the occasional review of yatsee, that and this comic n.n

Jo hit nail on head, most gamers these days simply don't give a shit about these so-called gaming news. Guess that's what drove them desperate. And hastened their own demise. It's got a tragic beauty to it.

Bait me...

Hitler was bad at art! Are all people who are bad at art destined to become psychopathic mass murders?

Is the decline in pirates responsible for global warming?

This minor correlation is actually causation because we are stupid rumor mongers, and we say so!

I only pay attention to The Escapist now and I only pay attention to that because I like to watch Zero Punctuation. Other than the release schedule and game trailers I find I'm just happier not knowing.

"Gaming Journalism"
That's the joke AHAHAHAHAHA.

Gaming news have always been a joke, there's nothing new in that. I just don't understand why everyone has to pay so much attention to it now, it's quite possibly one of the least interesting things. If you don't like people writing shit, stop reading their shit.

Yup, gotta agree. I've been off the grid for a while now. I'm notified to new released by steam and PSN, other than that, I don't own the console so I don't care. Don't know anything about publishers, new games, DLCs, reviews and so on.

It would be cool to see the girls reactions to these.

I don't post there. I just go to ckeck the news. It's important for me to know what's is hot right now outside gamers being the scourge of earth.

Have pitty,
if you got nothing nothing to do but forwarding the pressreleases ,
then its very tempting to blog about what you consider the bigger picture to make you feel like an investigative journalism/philosoph.
People read my Tropico review so they want my opinion on everything, right?

@Nerf NOW!!: You have to watch out for that. Some of the mods are trigger happy about bans and shadow bans recently.

@Col. Hathi: I just go to r/games now if I want pure news.

@Col. Hathi: You got kotaku, but that's nothing new, polygon, destructoid, escapist, giant bomb, rock paper shotgun, The Nerdist, inside gaming, gamespot, and a handful more.

Can you give me an example from a site that does that, Bane's Testicular Torsion? I'm starting to get curious.

Praise the lord, hallelujah. I hope the "Gamers are dead" articles on all "Gaming" websites is the cause of their demise. I want to see lost jobs, shutdown websites, "apologies," and back peddling of which has never been seen. The moment you shit on the people you write to, you're dead in the water.

What gaming sites are/were you following, Joe?

Remind me of one comic strip: paper news office. Worker (w) talking with a chief (c) about news that will be added on the next week.
w: ...also police arrested a maniac. Jobless, most of the day spend on drugs, drinks and videogames. Have a horrific childhood in past.
c: did you say videogames?

>If a serial killer at some point of his or her life held a controller, this doesn't mean he represent all people who play games.
"But we sure can blame it on them!" (c) fauxnews

but what if he held mouse!

Video games are fun.