Epic Sax Guy popping up to present one more viewpoint:
Unfortunately, perfection can be REPETITIVE
Unfortunately, perfection can be REPETITIVE
Unfortunately, perfection can be REPETITIVE
Unfortunately, perfection can be REPETITIVE
lol
over 13 years ago
A year old but someone is gonna see this eventually:
This is just another example of hardcore's bitterness as they realize that history is Not Going To Go Their Way.
Yeah you're a special snowflake, like a jazz player. Nobody cares.
Akamar
over 13 years ago
Bah. Is this reference to the game, or the gamer?
Falkyron
almost 14 years ago
Why do game companies cater to hardcore audiences?
Hardcore:
Will likely play a game through and support the game's company (if warranted).
Very voiced; supportive of developing projects.
Casual:
You are lucky if they even own the game or its system.
Generally play free games.
Notrollol
almost 14 years ago
I can see that you are those so called hardcore gamers but the gruel true is hardgore gamers are not real gamers they are just hight consumer gamers.
Anne Nonimus
about 14 years ago
So casual gaming is fun to do, but no fun to watch?
I think that there is a case to be made here about presentation. Several thousand people playing an instrument indiscriminately will be less pleasant than one person playing it well. What happens when a skilled person has the Vuvuzela?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf2P8SnOwLo
Your neighbour
over 14 years ago
So..this is like a snide comment on how the hardcore perceives things right, and grasps straws like these to justify how their kind is dying out, right?
Funniest commic ever.
Blackie
over 14 years ago
While a casual gamer resents being compared to the vuvuzela. I greatly approve being compared to a saxophone.
Dopplepoppolis
over 14 years ago
I resent you being compared to gamers
not retarded
over 14 years ago
obviously, "hardcore" is better for the intelligent.
thatonegit
over 14 years ago
so casual gaming is no fun to watch.
....
this makes sense.
akal
over 14 years ago
i'm surprised only one person on here has also suffered on /b/ when that happened
ProjectOrigins
over 14 years ago
I resent being compared vuvuzelas.
codename: slenderman
over 14 years ago
forgot to ask this a few comics back, who the fuck is frank and why whould i care?
Nezuji
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_34601]@TheBaron87[/url]: The sun is bright during the day, and can't be seen at night. But does the sun at dawn or dusk appear to be as bright as the mid-day sun? Yeah, it's a continuum. There might be sharp climbs and falls, but it's not a light bulb. Are we still talking about games?
Competitive fag
over 14 years ago
WE DECIDED TO CHALLAGE THE PUBLICSH BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GROW MASSIVE E-PAINIS! AT FRIST IT WAS JUST TO DO SOME NOOB BASHING, THEN VALVE GOT A BLOGZ ABOUT IT!@ ISN"T THAT CAWL?! WE KNOW WE GOIN TO WEEN!
ColdCedric
over 14 years ago
Shoot man, the artist should create Team Fortress World Cup. That will be hilarious.
Jake'm
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_34635]@Zan[/url]: Apparently, everyone's gotta be grouped.
Zan
over 14 years ago
Whatever happened to just being a gamer?
Aye.
over 14 years ago
BZZZZZZZZT.
http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/nerfnow.com
SAC
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_34472]@Kumquat[/url]: Yeah, I guess they're just marketing. But still, it's a convenient label, cause (for example), I could not enjoy Wii games the same way I do TF2. Oh well.
In that same manner, very few TF2 players you see can really be considered "casual" (vs competitive). It's all just terminology
casual: you can play in freeplay and just fuck off and learn how to fight.
Hardcore: this is like a turn based matrix yet in fast motion after the fight...
Check out Toribash for some casual decapitations.
now THAT'S hrdcore.
Manawarp
over 14 years ago
Continued...
A game can be all of those most commonly through use of difficulty levels, but also through additional challenges or otherwise that are there for more experienced players to pursue.
A classic if dated example of this is Tetris due to it's gradual difficulty increase.
freshmeatt
over 14 years ago
vuvuzelas win.
Manawarp
over 14 years ago
Figured I'd give my own descriptions:
Casual - Easy to Learn, Easy to Play.
Core - Moderately difficult but most experienced gamers will beat it without to much trouble given time.
Hardcore - Something that even experienced gamers find fairly hard.
A game can potentially be all of these.
Darkxide
over 14 years ago
OH GOD THE HORNS ARE BACK
NO
NOOOOOOOOO
Dunedin
over 14 years ago
...Then why is it that it's mostly the vuvuzuela players that are claiming to be hardcore?
Lobster
over 14 years ago
Sweet JESUS. I am so sick of the vuvuzela! There are better words that aren't for definitively obnoxious things.
Fluffy-Neko-San
over 14 years ago
....but I know that I lack the experience and play time that one ought to have to consider themselves one. So I suck it up if I don't count as a "hardcore" gamer. I just enjoy playing my games, trying to get better; to think or try to do otherwise would make me what I just described: a poser
Fluffy-Neko-San
over 14 years ago
....but that doesn't put you on the same level as everyone else. Deal with it. You just can't jump in play with every other player on the interwebs.Thinking so makes you a poser. Every other activity has them, but for some reason people think gaming can not. I would like to think I'm a "gamer".....
Fluffy-Neko-San
over 14 years ago
.......some got smug, some got butthurt and now we have this flame war of egos going on. There are differences. These differences don't make you any better or inferior, just DIFFERENT. But when you get your ego and nagging sense of entitlement involved you get a mess. You may play a game or two...
Fluffy-Neko-San
over 14 years ago
I think terms like "gamer" and subsequently "hardcore " and "casual" gamer were originally thrown around by people who weren't even gamers themselves. Then the true gamers, while shaking our heads, noticed that there were ACTUAL differences between gamers. We pointed it out to each other......
BZZZZZZZZZ
over 14 years ago
i freakin love your comics, keep up the g-BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
banjo2E
over 14 years ago
They need to ban soccer from vuvuzela concerts.
Snobmonster
over 14 years ago
Of course, a badly played saxophone is far, far, more annoying than any vuvuzuela.
Jake'm
over 14 years ago
And whilst a daily cycle does have varying aspects, it is nowhere near as diverse as the stuff in games.
Jake'm
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_34601]@TheBaron87[/url] about[url=#user_comment_34580] @Nezuji[/url]: Games have tons of varying aspects that can't be realistically boiled down to X or Y. A 24-hour cycle is easier to define as day, night, dusk or dawn. So your attempt to compare two random subjects is pointless.
Coyote
over 14 years ago
NoTorso you win so much with that photo note and if you want you could also win a torso
TheBaron87
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_34492]@Anon[/url]: >Implying the average person has the mental capacity to learn chess.
[url=#user_comment_34554]
@Roderick[/url]: Thank you, I lol'd.
[url=#user_comment_34580]
@Nezuji[/url]: So is everything. What, are you going to say the day isn't bright and the night isn't dark? They're just "on a continuum"?
Batabii
over 14 years ago
3 photo notes are enough for anyone! -- Bill Gates, circa 1981.
WTF then where are they?
Batabii
over 14 years ago
Why do my photo notes keep disappearing?
Dreamstate
over 14 years ago
Um.. the sax player. where can I meet a guy like that? *^^*
StarPilot
over 14 years ago
@Lemure Zombie: Or Team Fortres-
OH GOD A GIANT CAT THAT SHOOTS BEES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM1Ay85de3U
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Hiss
over 14 years ago
This is an inside joke for two reasons.
Soccer games are full of these. Sounds like a swarm of bees. Check back on the USA vs Ghana match. Also, /b/ was forced to listen to a bzzzz .wave recently.
Fuck the "casual/hardcore" thing. They're just labels applied by "cool" people to define themselves. If "cool" gamers don't make themselves look cooler than the "hardcore" gamers (ie those with a passion for games), then they'll be put in the same group as the geeks and they don't want that.
What the hell is this shi- ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOT- BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Codename: slenderman
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_34521]@Alexthegreat[/url], you blew my cover you bastard! I was on an important mission and you reveal my identity!
Lou
over 14 years ago
Um, what? You saying they sound anything alike? I PLAY a saxophone for a living.
Nezuji
over 14 years ago
The reason that the "hardcore vs casual" debate is nonsense for me is that games aren't an either-or proposition. It's a continuum. Unfortunately, putting pictures of other people playing kazoos, or singing karaoke, or playing Jazz Hero in between the two extremes would ruin the joke.
Manawarp
over 14 years ago
I wouldn't really consider that a description of Hardcore games.
I would consider that a description of your regular middle-of-the-road "Core" games that are too hard for casuals but aren't truly challenging to an experienced gamer.
COD is Core...CS is Hardcore.
sbk
over 14 years ago
totally agree, jazz is exactly like listening to a thousand vuvuzelas
Also, I can't say I mind the Vuvuzela's. I prefer it to the racial epithets and jingoistic bullshit that usually gets spouted at these games.
rocky
over 14 years ago
I would argue against "Popular"..
RedShocktrooper
over 14 years ago
A MILLION ANGRY BEES
Darkin
over 14 years ago
I think this comic is absolu-BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Wait,if the saxaphone player is supposed to be hardcore, where re the fifty other allegedly hardcores drowning out the music with their arguments over every petty little mechanical detail of saxaphone playing?
Just because the horn is part of thier culture doesn't make it any less annoying.
Denzo
over 14 years ago
OH GOD THE BEES. NOT THE BEES. AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH!
Fire Storm
over 14 years ago
Why wasn't this link in here before?
http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.nerfnow.com/comic/330
Vulpis
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_34527]@Armory[/url]: We do? I know I don't. Then again, the whole World Cup thing doesn't interest me that much in general--and the idiots with the annoying cheap plastic horns just make it worse.
Philby
over 14 years ago
this makes me sad
because it's true
Frank West
over 14 years ago
Honestly, they could have handed out jars of bees to be thrown when a goal is scored instead of Vuvuzelas and it would have been less annoying.
The Pain
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_34528]@Skiffite[/url]: TOMMY GUN!
haters gon' hate
over 14 years ago
the U.S. OF A just LOST!
haters gon' hate
BLU Medic
over 14 years ago
The W+1 Pyro is a player holds down W and mouse 1. Thus he/she charges forth with little disregard to itself and expects to get kills. Though every class could be considered a W+m1 class; the pyro was relatively the most effective at this tatic compared to other classes.
[url=#user_comment_34530]@Osmigos[/url] - it's W+M1 - W being the key you press to go forward, and M1 being Mouse-1, the fire key. It's a Pyro who just walks forward spraying fire.
Osmigos
over 14 years ago
It's been bugging me for a while... what the hell is a W+1 Pyro? (from the comment)
Someone already touched on it, "Casual" and "Hardcore" are marketing terms. Like how, "Urban Market" is a marketing term companies use so they don't sound racist.
Casual Vuvuzela
over 14 years ago
Hey bra, it's all good, relax and BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzz
PhoeniXYZ
over 14 years ago
You forgot one thing on argument on the "Casual" side:
It annoys the fuck out of everyone.
Dude
over 14 years ago
At first I thought it meant the debate was one sided because casuals don't really participate in it.
[url=#user_comment_34512]@Lien[/url]: Who cares if the US lost?
Lien
over 14 years ago
Man... who cares... the U.S lost!
Hey man
over 14 years ago
This is gonna to be less funny once the World Cup ends.
As a sax player I gotta say that is a reasonably accurate sax. Cheeks shouldn't puff for a good sax player though. Also, sax isn't hard to learn or complicated. It's hard to *master* though.
ALSO FUCK VUVUZELAS.
zeruf
over 14 years ago
i was forced to listen to the damn thing go BZZZZ on TV when a group of "doods" walked in to a pizza joint i like AFTER i placed my order and payed, i heard it constantly for about 25 minutes, so i can only imagine what the whole event must be like (i don't really care for the sport)
Classic/Retro was here. Hardcore and Casual are losers.
StarPilot
over 14 years ago
No one has done this one yet? That vuvuzela's a spah!
BowlerHatMan
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_34456]@CnEY[/url]: It's not about the players, it's about the games. You can either have a rich and nuanced experience, or you can have vuvuzelas. Of course, there is a fairly large middle ground, so this whole thing is a bit of a strawman on both sides.
'Course, there is no such thing as "casual" or "hardcore" - they're both marketing terms created to nicely divide games into two categories. Chess, for instance, is pretty easy to learn and a lot of people play it. There's also extremely high-level play.
pong
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_34454]@SAC[/url]:
Changing "hardcore" to "mainstream" doesn't make sense since mainstream and casual are the same thing.
Black Dragon
over 14 years ago
I can almost guarantee that either a Vuvuzala Hero or Rockband: Vuvuzala Edition is in the works for all platforms.
Could barely watch the World Cup with those vuvuzelas going on. Now that the US is eliminated, now I don't have to anymore.
Just kidding :p, Ronaldo and Kaka are still in it so it's all good.
Groovy Pants
over 14 years ago
Jazz is good.
Club-Wielder
over 14 years ago
Oh boy, I love the World Cup! It's so good to see so many different nationalities of the world get together and play some Soccer! May the best nation win the game of Soccer!
Soccer! BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
ColdCedric
over 14 years ago
BZZ, BZZZ, BZZZZZZZZ, you can hear this loud annoying piece of instrument when only that this can only last for a lifetime.
Ezgam3r
over 14 years ago
I just hope these football players leave soon as they have ruined the Vuvuzela Concerts by deliberately starting their games during the Vuvuzelist's warmups.
[url=#user_comment_34454]@SAC[/url]: Well, "Mainstream" is more a term for what is the most popular (or what people MAINLY play) which can be "hardcore" or "casual" games. While it sucks, the description you used for hardcore is very appropriate. It refers to someone who spends a ridiculous amount of time and energy on a game.
Internet Guy
over 14 years ago
And another thing:
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Internet Guy
over 14 years ago
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
:D
over 14 years ago
Yo dawg, I heard you like music so we put some vuvuselas in your head so you can BZZZZZZZT while you think.
Except that Kinect and Move WON'T be cheap... Also, I'd sooner equate a lot of the "hardcore" gamers I hear online to a swarm of killer vuvuzelas.
SAC
over 14 years ago
I hear they're like a free souvenir. If so, screw that.
Otherwise, I'm not a big fan of the term "hardcore" for videogames. Draws up imagines of a ritalin popping squeaky voiced 13 year old droolbucket playing XBox in his underpants and screaming profanities.
"Mainstream" I like better.
Normal
over 14 years ago
"-liked by many
-Popular, everybody loves it"
Only fags like vuvuzelas, they suck dick and everybody hate that noisy thing >:(