Stop. The. Pyro. Hate. Seriously, let us all hate the Civilian, who never even showed up in TF2! Frickin' traitor!

Oh I know that Pyro's pain all too well

Nobody can call zoey cuz im zoey hahaha

I totally need the "Left 4 Dead" one as a spray. I will use it when my team is being obnoxious, or just plain stupid.

GODZILLA ATTACK!!!!

I still say that a skillful sniper is more useful than a skillful pyro but w/e. Thats my opinion. On a related sidenote, if your getting killed by a sniper, revenge is all the sweeter, correct? Much like the satisfaction of a Revenge, killing a sniper after he headshotted you 3 times is pure bliss.

I agree with the running into an area with a level 3 sentry. A Heavy? How else are you supposed to get at the medic behind it. Pyro moves quick enough that if the heavy is moving, by the time it gets its barrel down and firing, you've pretty much burn the medic to death or at least set it on fire.

"There's no such thing as an ineffective pyro"
To be fair (and Pyro's my favourite class), there is.  There's the Pyro that runs into an open area guarded by a level 3 sentry, or runs directly at a Heavy.  On bad days I end up doing both of these and more.

well? its friday evening and i cant wait for the next comic. when will it come? is it delayed?

SNIPERS ARE NOT SAFE FROM CHICAGO TED

The worse part of snipers is having to decide if you want to go for the taunt kill or see if they do the panicy flinch fire when Sasha spins up.

The snipers that always say, "Get out of my shot!" to me can suck it. They're they ones standing there, while we're the ones trying to keep everyone alive in the main bloody battle (I play a medic, can you tell? Hehehe).
Screw that. I usually take people like that off my heal list. :D

"And the Sniper, for people who like point and click adventures, except the only puzzle is, "Use gun on man."

@prawninator

L4D isn't really horror, it's more action with a little bit of campy humor. So no worries, you won't even need to leave the light on.

As my last statement, I will say that pyro's are more useful then sniper 99 times out of 100. That 1 other time is when playing orange_x.

I love all the trolling going on. TF2 requires a good balance of teammates for any map. A team of all pyros or a team of all snipers won't win on offense or defense. I love to uber pyros, the destruction is great. 2Fort. Enemy sewer. sniper. lulz.

L4D isn't that scary, just go to easy, turn brightness ALL the way up and turn on sv_cheats to 1. ={D

I don't think I could ever play L4D... too scary!
And I also have to agree with the person who mentioned Bloodsire. That guy is just freaky scary. Also, snipers that just seem to manage to headshot me even when I'm up in the air...  they're super annoying. *cry*

I'm with Merc on this. I suck at TF2 in general, but even I can get some work done as a pyro. Sniper, though? No such luck.

Jeez... whats with the hate people?
Snipers and pyros have thier roles. Its just that people have the tendency to always go for that role.

There is one thing though... There's no such thing as an ineffective pyro but there is such a thing for snipers.

Sneaking up on snipers is fun, and satisfying.

Sneaking up on a pyro is asking for trouble.

All specialize in one class. I for one specialise in Soldier.

There's nothing wrong with snipers. There's nothing wrong with pyros. Don't blame the class for your own lack of skills.

Actually Casbros, it's quite fun to sneak up on Snipers with a Scout and beat the tar outta 'em in the final area of Gold Rush.

same thing can be said about pyros.
and snipers are cheap because to get to them you have to deal with the entire enemy team, while they look at your head. if TF2 is based on the concept of having fun, then it's not funny to be killed by a COWARD.

No really, the sniper has the potential to be both the greatest
teammate evar, or the useless teammate whose only useful function is to kill the enemy sniper. Yes a lot of snipers out there are a total waste of space. However, there are excellent snipers out there. Blloodsire comes to mind.

Sniper? CHEAP? AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH OH GAWD. If you got killed by a sniper, its because he actually aimed. Is aiming cheap? Never knew. LEAST USEFUL? GAGAGAGAGAGA. Obviously, when a single good sniper closes off the entire outside area of 2fort, that sniper is completely useless right? .

Shouldn't the Sniper on the left of the final panel have his hat flipped up? And shouldn't one of them be hat-less?

I'm an pretty good sniper, but I never use him when I want to actually help the team. So keep on believing your "leet", using your no-deviation rifle against humongous head hitboxes.
I'd rather have another Scout or Spy (the 2 most skill based classes) anyday over a Sniper.

*Troll approaches.*

I just lol at you "hardcore" snipers rushing to defend the cheapest and least useful class in the game. At least a pyro can die defending a point. All those selfish snipers I see running away to protect their all-important K/D ratio.

Wow, some bitter trolls here huh? Makes me remember why I quit TF2 for Gears of War 2 and L4D. Because of all the noobs who can't deal with pyros so they come up with a terrible excuse for their inability to fight one.

A left 4 Dead arc should be great! Wonder whats going to happen...

This is the exact reason I don't play TF2 anymore.
Everyone hates on pyros.

bILLYBOb, did you ever, I dunno, consider that TF2 was supposed to be a fairly simple game with some depth to it? Really now.

As a Pyro, I mostly check for Spies with an occasional ambush here and there. I prefer the regular Flamer to push back Uber rushes.

Y'know, I think the only class I suck at stealth with is the Spah. Even as a Medic, I can usually sneak up behind Snipers and Demomen and saw them to death before they realize what is going on. If a Pyro is within range of flaming me with the Backburner, rushing with the saw works pretty well too.

I WISH I could get L4D, but my PC is crap and the most recent game I can play is TF2 :(
Regarding the "w+m1" thing, I'm often guilty when playing as pyro :P HOWEVER: I like to ambush the other team w/ my backburner when I can. Otherwise, circlestrafe!

Funny how people rush to defend the pyro nowadays instead of back then before the buff when Pyros needed brains to be effective. Quit defending him and admit it. Pyro was made for casual gamers. Its easy to pick up, easy to do well. In other words a newbie class.

Spy? Requires a multitude of tactics and quick thinking.
Pyro? According to official stats, Pyro gets the MOST kills but the
LEAST lifetime. Can you say with me...easy-mode class?

Demo? needs to aim nades and alternate between both of his weapons effectively. Soldier? Requires aim+leading with rockets and the good sense to switch
to shotty in close range now that the Soldier's so weak at close range
due to nerfs.

Sure you can say that a Scout can go W+m1 or a sniper can go W+m1 or engi even but these two classes will usually phail at garnering any sort of kills. Heavy? Most people know how to deal with them easily. A retard heavy that goes w+m1 will undoubtedly get destroyed.

My god, five comments just to complain about a class? I smell a troll.

NO ZOMBIES ARE SAFE FROM CHICAGO TED

The sniper should also go for left 4 dead, the female one, not the asshole ones XD

oh and one more thing

if you don't like being blown to shit in tiny chokepoints, stop playing payload maps

i assume that the random hatred of snipers stems from the fact that the pyro requires little to no aim (like i said before, the flamethrower only requires you to be close enough and be facing them), while the sniper rifle requires total precision, something pyro players simply can't handle

before the buff, pyros were a no-skill class that was just useless, now it's a no-skill class that actually is useful

the pyro's main weapon requires you to do nothing but point in the
general direction of your enemy and hold down "w" and "m1". don't tell
me the airblast takes skill, it just takes 80% luck and 20% reaction
time

newsflash: there is no such thing as a "good" pyro. trying to inform people that "OMG NOT ALL PYROS ARE W+M1" is futile
just because you occasionally switch to your shotgun does not mean that you are better. every class does that

I am a w+1 pyro. I usually get shot in the face. I just like fire.

lol so we will see pyro-guy in left 4 dead? :D

this happened to me too. after 200 hours as pyro, i know how to deal with enemies. however, tired of being insulted freely by player that hit you only when you can't see them, 'cause they're too far away, i "left" the game for L4D.
sniper is a cheap class played by cheap people.

sole21: It'd be pretty difficult to get out of spawn don't you think?

They don't have any skill, so just try to put everyone else down.

300 character limit? damn :(

I hate it when people say all pyros are just W+M1. The bad pyros are, the good pryos are the ones that know when to set someone on fire, they retreat and let them burn, or switch to the axetinguisher and kill, or just plain run away. It's generally bad people that say that about Pyros too.

The Pyor's flamethrower fuel isn't in the tank on his back... it's in the gas canister that's part of the flamethrower. The tank on his back is oxygen so that he can breath when he's surrounded by fire.

I love how you took notice of all those "har har pyro shouldn't complain he's just w+m1 lololol" comments.

I'm gonna call snipers m2+m1 from now on. After all, sniping in TF2 is way easier then most games.

You know what I think would be a good match up?

Tank Vs. Heavy.

You can't deny it.

SEE YA!

Cant wait for the left 4 dead arc

Pyro's not really a long-range kinda class, so I can understand his grief. But in L4D, he'd rock the Kazbah! like a conjugal visit.

That's bull. I mean, you COULD just hold fire and forward. And a scout could just charge in head first. A sniper can fire in the open. An engineer could build a sentry facing the wrong way.
Or, maybe, just maybe, you can plan ahead and actually, like, use strategy. Or something. And do better.

The "W+1" is a reference to a common derogatory comment about Pyros needing no skill and that all they need is to move forward (W) while firing non-stop (Mouse button 1).

w+m1 doesn't work as well in l4d though

W + mouse button 1. Think "kamikaze pyro", for a bit, and their...tactics.

I'm sorry but I don't get the w + 1 thing. :x Someone mind explaining that?

Oh, snap!

Well, can't say I blame Pyro, given the circumstances. Also, I think that flamethrower would come in damn handy. Just don't startle the Witch, Pyro!

Seriously. Don't.

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