Honestly there is NO REQUIREMENT for doing daily's. They do provide a large reward, but you can gear up for normal raiding by dungeons, Sha, and LFR. We were downing the first few bosses in MSV the second week of the expansion when most of us had 0 valor upgrades, and had never killed Sha of Anger.

atmost you only need to do the dailies for a short while, IF you want. You dont even need exalted.

They did admit that the golden lotus dailies, with many dailies each day for little rep each, was a bit much.

[url=#user_comment_222447]@Scootaderp[/url]: dailies being REQUIRED is only your opinion, you can still just do dungeons and scenarios NOBODY is forcing you to do it

I recently unsubbed, entirely due to the dailies being required for better gear. At least if you like having gear before the end of the year.

Dailies are only good when you can do them by doing things you'd do in the game anyways, without noticing it, and when the rewards are somthing you can get some other way anyways.

Daily quests boggle my mind.
THey're not interesting, funny or exiting.
They are the epitome of tedious and repetitive grind for a virtual reward. In other words, hours wasted in boring things to get something which will provide a minor level of enjoyment.

YAY!! that argonian maid is still around! :)

its great to see the lusty argonian maid around!

Discussion over.

I was not partaking in such behaviours. If you cannot see that, it is pointless to discuss it any more.

[url=#user_comment_211806]@desolation0[/url]: I was commenting someone's behaviour. I was not adressing this person directly, nor insulting him. If you see someone doing something stupid in the street, there is nothing wrong with stating it and moving on. The difference is they do the stupid stuff (insulting people). I comment.

[url=#user_comment_211308]@Paul[/url] "I feel it is our duty to have knowledge of the kind of behaviours going on on the internet, and make sure to raise our kids so that they learn to avoid doing these behaviours." I agree but still fail to see how performing those behaviors ourselves helps anything.

i think the same shit exists in spiral knights as well

The game is little more than a treadmill at this point. Time to realize that and go find something fun to pay instead.

People are doin them because untill you hit revered they're mandatory. It's the only way to be able to actually spend the points you earn, purchases a lot of recipes and other stuff you need on the long run.
With 5.1 they actually introduce more items to some of those factions.

I just finished getting exalted with everything so yay!...now I still need achieve...awww :(

Lusty Argonian Maid! Haha! Now you just need to have X-Chan hanging around the house as well!

Have I mentioned that I'm on my 3rd Classic run and it's still fun for me?

I'm with the maid. If you don't like doing the quests, don't do them. Do the parts of the game you like, and if the game is forcing you to do dailies just to do the bits of the game you like, factor that into the fun and either quit or suck it up (either no whining, or take the slow but fun path).

[url=#user_comment_211245]@S0ldi3rKr4s0[/url]'s photonotes, if you look at the first panel more carefully you'll see that there is a strap going around her neck

Klaxxi give you the Augments and Enhancements that can really support a play style as you thin the numbers of the mantid. The Tiller and Angler Dailies are largely quick gathering quests that go by quickly, and Tillers has quite a few interesting characters that you oddly grow to like. I'll stop now

I like WoW. I've played on and off since Burning Crusade came out. I've gone to school, worked, and in general lived an admittedly nerdy life. I came BACK for Pandaria, when many left. Know what I've found?

It's... FUN. With the exception of the Golden Lotus dailies, I actually like the dailies-

[url=#user_comment_211307]@Paul[/url]: Perhaps you disagree and that is fine. But I'm calling what I see what it is; people acting retarded. Perhpas there are other parents like me who enjoys Nerfnow, and my message will make them think a little.

[url=#user_comment_211259]@desolation0[/url]: As a gamer AND a parent, in the age of the internet, I feel it is our duty to have knowledge of the kind of behaviours going on on the internet, and make sure to raise our kids so that they learn to avoid doing these behaviours. There is nothing wrong with stating that.

@Nostalgia Flower Bomb: To be fair, the BumFuck Society let you buy the coolest vanity pets!

The long awaited return of Lift's-Her-Tail? Well played good sir.

Ah daily quests, brings me back to my time playing WoW. Farming dailies for a month because the guild needed some stupid item that you could only get by having 5,000,000,000 rep with the BumFuck Society. Why did I play WoW again?

Great strip Joe. It's a very nice one, it does not need to have any great knowledge of a single game to get it!

I particularly like this strip cause it applies to a whole lot of different games. WoW certainly isn't the only game with some sort of thing you're expected to do every day, that you get into a pattern of doing every day simply because they're.. daily.

[url=#user_comment_211247]@Paul[/url] Parents are calling folks retarded over an opinion on a message board.

Kinda off topic: http://imgur.com/gallery/Tl7Hu reminds me of the other engi-tan (kinda NSFW for cartoon boobs)

Lusty Argonian maid? Jo delivers.

[url=#user_comment_211242]@AckAckAck[/url]: Wow that DeathHerald guy sure is retarded. I got 3 kids, and you can be sure if I catch them having that kind of behaviour I'll straighten things up with them and make sure they learn the lesson of not being a douche on the internet. What the hell are parents doing these days???

Yeah, bit of information, not very deep, but gets you to maybe try and think about why you play, what makes a good game, and whether games are or are not art. Folks will obviously have different opinions on these bits and that's fine. Having folks think isn't a bad thing.

There is a number of Korean MMORPS's which offer a slow leveling through "meditation" (idling) or even giving a special "pet" to your char, which can control him/her while you offline.
Heh, I miss Tabula Rasa and its "character cloning" options

People usually take daily missions enthusiasly(sp) at first. Until they realize that daily challenges are actually a repeat of the same pattern over and over again. That's when an MMO can't no longer able to hold its user base. What the best way to hold a user base? by building a good community.

Sexy Maid is sexy!!

the forum with endless pointless debates (like what happened often in Escapist).

Also it seems like you're on a crusade against James Portnow. I don't care about your crusade but I see James as informative for us who want to learn more about gaming. Better than a stranger who promote hatred.

[url=#user_comment_211052]@DeadHerald[/url]: It's so hilarious to see you try to insult someone and a forum site while hoping for desolation0 reply (who ignore you completely). You sounds like a douche and I'm glad there's less people like you in Escapist or other gaming sites since people like you usually ended up clogging (cont)

I'm hitting a similar boredom wall in DCUO, actually, doing the daily Challenges...and realizing that the gear I'm getting from it is only of use to do the group-based Alerts and Raids that I was avoiding by doing the solo Challenges in the first place. :-/

I hear that--no matter whether you call them 'dailies', 'Challenges' or whatever, they're what's left in an MMO endgame when you run out of real content. Then again, the only real difference to raids is that the latter you're doing over and over and over in a *group*, rather than solo.

Hm, indeed, I spent 4 hours a day on daily quests to get decent exp on a game I used to play about 1 year ago. Got tired of that way to "stretch" content.
Having dailies in general is nice, but overloading ppl with those and slowing leveling speed to ~1 lvl /month was weak.

The moral I took away from this story.
i.imgur.com/0j7Yu.jpg

You only get 400 of 1000 weekly valor points from raiding now, and the valor vendors are gated behind rep that you can only get by grinding a billion dailies.

Blizzard hates raiders, etc.

I can totally relate to this, I've been actively playing Total War Shogun 2- Fall of the Samurai and whenever I do I loom back at what dailies I'm not doing in WoW.

It's annoying because I don't want to play WoW everyday but if I don't I miss out.

good to see her again thou :)

lusty argonian maid ain't very lusty....darn :(

Meh. When the reliance on operand conditioning becomes to blatant, I just quit. [Simple trick: Stop playing for a week, and then ask yourself if you miss the game or just the rewards]

wait, did you removed the images from your rss?! D:<

I am now certain that the Argonian maid killed her dark-haired predecessor to usurp her position.

You should of shortened Green Bra Alien's top part of the nose a bit, shouldn't you?

The good thing about dailies is precisely that: Dailies. You can come back tomorrow if you just need the extra gold/xp, and it'll still be there.

So very very true.
Engie is a massochist.

Personally, I don't do dailies if I don't feel like doing dailies but I recognize that I am the minority in that respect. When I don't feel like playing the game, I don't. It allows me to enjoy it for far longer.

Argonian Maid knows all about Daily Quests.

THE LUSTY ARGONIAN MAID HAS RETURN-ETH! Now we just need her doing suggestive things with a mop or a broom.

Also, I wouldn't say it's because of the "daily" part. Sure, some do, but some people are wired into the grind. Go Google "Skinner Box" and you'll get what I'm talking about.

This phenomenon is not limited to WoW or MMOs, achievement hunting and RPG level grinding falls into the same category. Ever tried to complete Final Fantasy XIII? Good luck trying to farm Platinum Ingots which are RANDOM drops, but are your only gold income post-game. It's like a cruel parody.

lusty argonian maid? she doesn't look lusty at all.

I don't play WoW and I get this one.
Mostly because this one atleast is based on a GAME.
Argoni-chan S2

50% of the public will not get this joke because it's WoW.

The other 50% won't care and the 50% will join in because Argoni-chan is back!

Btw, yeah I agree with Engie-tan...doing dailies totally blows!

Hot dang it! About time you brought our lil' lusty Argonian maid back!

Jo ol' buddy...well done!

...then I heard Portnow fired her. Thus completing the cycle of douchebaggery.

Of course getting kicked out of The Escapist is kind of like getting kicked out of Stalag 17, what with all the thought police and propaganda and gestapo moderators and all the other happy horseshit that goes on there. I'd almost feel sorry for what happened to his artist...

WoW faced this "problem" of folks not doing the dailies once they could easily get pulled through earlier raids. Now daily dungeons continue to reward folks near as much as those earlier raids. Now many folks end up doing those raids AND the dailies, if they can handle both.

[url=#user_comment_211048]@desolation0[/url]: It's so cute how James Portnow thinks he's intelligent by looking up terms on wikipedia and spitting them at gamers so that they buy into his "ZOMG!!GAMEZR4RT!!1" crusade. I got kicked out of Escapist for taking his artsy-fartsy ass to school too many times in debates.

In the case of MMORPG's, the daily quests are often tied to some means to improve your character outside of the grouped raid content, which can require significant coordination within a group. When doing the daily junk ceases to be rewarding in this way, folks tend to stop doing it.

Very much reminds me of the Skinner Box episode of Extra Credits. http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/the-skinner-box It's a psychological means to get you to do things in the game that have long since ceased to be novel or fun.

Cleaning window in bikini...what if there is a perv on the other side of the street?
Plus such big window, how can you check your fap site, without showing to other what you're doing Jo?

True. If they werent called daily quests then people probably wouldn´t feel forced to do them :)

The Lusty Argonian Maid is back! WE LOVE YOU!

MINE

This is a big failing of many end game MMOs.

Rep Grind via Dailies. BOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRING!

Buut... the glare on her poor computer! imagine playing on that during mid day!... unsure of implications in middle panel, but suddenly the exclamation point seems all the more sinister in reality.

Alexander:
Lusty Argonian Maid cleaning window. Also being able to see engie from behind all the time. Don't even try to talk about adding blinds.

oh my, That..... that is a BIG window. THE GLARE ON THE COMPUTER SCREEN MUST BE HORRIFIC, THERE IS NO BLINDS, WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN.

But daily quests are important for rep, which is important for gear, which is important for raiding--!

... unsure if refuted point or just made it stronger.

All hail... Lusty Argonian Maid! :3

Yay, more Lusty Argonian Maid :D

Argonian maid is back. I'm a very happy man now.