@Kilgore Trout: If what pmavers said was true, then they reversed the nerf. Probably a lot of people protesting.

Oh, hey, Morgan... today's update has a little something for you.

"Reverted the recent stickybomb damage ramp up change. We will continue to evaluate the use of stickybomb air detonations and potential changes to that mechanic."

I finished a game with Demo in Dust Bowl earlier, and I was surprised that I got a lot of kills with stickies. I just shot a bunch of them on the ground at a choke point in plain sight and waited-the BLU players kept stupidly running over or near them and got blown up.

[url=#user_comment_347696]@Xeranar[/url]: It also means that they don't have to suffer as much self-inflicted damage when doing sticky jumps, as long as they do it before the damage ramp-up finishes.

[url=#user_comment_347677]@yiran[/url]: Maybe they nerfed the Axtinguisher to facilitate more usage of the Reserve Shooter as well. After knocking an enemy airborne with an air blast, you can use the Reserve Shooter to finish them off while they're on fire.

[url=#user_comment_347687]@jnallen[/url] Exactly what they did^^

mmm, jo, mirana won the against pudge in the arcana voting, and she will be competing against templar, just to let you know, for a strip... wink wink

I mainly play A/D & Payload, the loss of the sticky is no big deal. Too often it was simply a general area attack for those who got too close, Demos are meant to be a mixed bag of Offense and Defense, finally nerfing the air sticky shot means demos need to get better with their launcher of choice.

The more TF2 you do, the more I die a little inside with the absence of a certain redhead engineer (not naming names)...

on the contrary game is now alive to me. redownloaded after I saw this comic.

We WANT ENGIE. Return it please. All russian guys want engie :'(((((((

[url=#user_comment_347687]@jnallen[/url]: That's actually what they did, only with less time, 2 seconds. [url=#user_comment_347677] @yiran[/url]: The Axtinguisher nerfd was necessary, that damn thing is a close-range insta-kill. Then people started using macros, mouse 1 ~ mouse 2 ~ melee wep ~ mouse 1. It was even faster. In pubs that was plain broken.

Hey Jo.. Just so you know, this was the backdrop for KritzKast while we talked about Demonerf. <3

Agro.

hoovy got nerfed too...

Why don't they just make them less damaging right after they're placed, then ramp up to regular damage range after being in that spot for a small amount of time, say 4 seconds or so?

[url=#user_comment_347685]@2033[/url]: technically it doesn't. It has damage ramp-up that only lasts two seconds, so it's actually good for Trappers.

I don't really understand this, all they needed to do was reduce damage on airborne stickys, but this will seriously hurt trapperdemomen.

Then again, I havent touched TF2 in well over two years because I only got crap drops and shit was going down the drain for me anyway.

Demoknight with lochnload still rocks.

I've been a strong supporter of nerfing the Demo for a long time. It was obvious that he completely outclassed the Soldier at higher levels. That being said, this is ridiculous. The crowd control class can no longer do crowd control, & vanilla is now a straight downgrade to the formerly useless SR.

My weapon that 2-4 shots people got nerfed in that i have to wait 2 seconds for them to acheive max damage how sad that a weapon used for trapping got balanced so it leans towards that style in the way it was meant to be used.

I don't get why they needed to nerf Pyro. He was already one of the weakest players in both casual games AND pro games.

And Soldier/Scout, the best classes other than Medic and Demoman weren't touched. Idk.

I don't see why cutting off a noob's tactic is bad. For all you whiny demos, press "1" to close range encounters, you know, like you SHOULD. Also, Axtinguisher nerf FINALLY. Two stupid scrub resorts have been shot down. GABEN BE PRAISED!

Hey morgan you can always play the xbox 360 orang box edition. There's no nerfs, or hats, or special weapons, or mann vs machine, or sandvich, or invisibility for spies, or... anything really.

A strong reminder that demo was meant to place traps, not spam stickies... And melee people.

Shit that's terrib- Oh, wait, it's not the pipe bombs. *pets loch-n-load*

Finally, my Demoknight can reign supreme above the other Demos >:D

Targe, axe, and Loch are all I need~

use the wheel and hit him with your sword

Two seconds seem like a little two much. Perhaps one or 1.5 seconds would work better...?

What happend with the female Pyro and the other redhair Engie and female scout?

So Soldier isn't just a poor man's Demo now? Coming back to TF2 looks more and more tempting.

I love playing Demoman and I don't even use sticky, too complicated. So mastering the bounce angles of the grenade launcher finally paid off.

Sticky spam is now finally dead, though i feel there should be an overall damage boost in order to accomodate for this nerf and thus reward actual traps

"Oh no! Stickies are nerfed, now I have to teach myself how to aim with grenade launcher!"

-That's how I see people complaining about this nerf, for me it's great change, sticky spam is most anyoing thing in game.

A shame, but fear not my friends, blowing up enemies will now take up skill with the forgotten, the magnific, the mighty, grenade launcher!

Whoa! Nice use of the classic art style Jo

"What makes ME a good Demoman? Safety procedures! I can't be flingin' these bombs around at high power, so close to my face! I could hurt meself!"

No but seriously good Demos used pipes :V

OMG! They nerfed the sticky bombs!? I am the sad T_T

This game has never been more balanced than it is now.

PRAISE BE TO GABEN

That's what you get pesky Alliance fan!

Seriously. If you're in an open fight, use your damn grenade launcher. It's what it's for.

About time.

Stickies are already so nerfed as to make Demoknight the only worthwhile build on anything but Payload defense. And even then, you need Scottish Resistance so you can place a shitton of the fuckers.

Whyyyyyy