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RAGE
over 14 years ago
YOU DIDN'T FINISH THE LAST ONE
Moonj
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_28710]@Vulpis[/url]: agreed
VideoGameGeek
over 14 years ago
Does this mean Baby Medic and RED Heavy will return?
Hardhat
over 14 years ago
Considering Direct Hit, SR, huntspam, and a few other factors, this change is rather nice. Think of it this way: Flamethrower is harder to just kill with, but a puff and whack with the Axtinguisher is just that much easier now. If you're in range to spray, you're in range for a puff and sting.
Pills McMollies
over 14 years ago
Where is pyro jr? :0 probably fightig on badwater with the rest of the baby team...
SAC
over 14 years ago
Wow.

The difference being killing a Heavy in 2 seconds and 2.5 seconds and people still complain.

If the CB is that difficult for you just use the boonburner ;)

*waits for next strip*
RocketRunner
over 14 years ago
Ignoring the complaints, am I the only one who thought the title was a reference to the movie Duel?
Moosey84
over 14 years ago
forums steampowered com/forums/showthread.php?t=1252294

To people who say he's buffed, grow a brain please.
Drake
over 14 years ago
@The Knife: Yeah, but thing is, people don't care about competitive for the most part. People who pick Pyro want a close-range ambush class that lets them make enemies BURN. Improved airblast IS good, really good but it misses the point - Pyro should burn people, not juggle them with air.
The Knife
over 14 years ago
Fact is the pyro is better for comp now considering the airblast, especially the minicrits makes it extremely deadly if used correctly. The nerf on the fire makes W+M1 pyros less effective, and allows them to set, puff and shotgun, or puff and sting. Its not so much a nerf as is a gameplay change.
Bob
over 14 years ago
For people thinking it's 96%

Do you honestly think weapon tweaks are done in percentages and not integers?
asdasdas
over 14 years ago
You realize the huntsman was actually nerfed, right?

She shouldnt even be remotely happy or interested about it
Hammerfan
over 14 years ago
@ Starpilot

The BB didnt actually get a buff, it got a nerf too.
It now does 96% damage when compared to pre-update.
Hammerfan
over 14 years ago
To anyone saying this isnt a nerf:

Go to the Pyro forums in the SPUF.
There are tons of arguments to why THIS IS A F**** NERF.

Really, I dont want a PRIMARY weapon that does LESS DPS THAN A SHOTTY WITH NOWHERE THE SAME RANGE.
StarPilot
over 14 years ago
Well they did a slight buff to the Backburner, right? Perhaps this update was to widen the difference between the two weapons so that ambushers could kill enemies quickly with the BB while the ABers could use the AB more effectively.
Vulpis
over 14 years ago
Granted, would explain why the Pyro always wears the mask, if their 'proper' attack is just 'passing gas' and the secondary one is lighting it...
Vulpis
over 14 years ago
I'm amused that anyone can make the comment 'This is a big bonus for people who play the class properly using airblast.' without having head-explody--um, playing a *pyro* 'properly' means using airblast instead of a *flame* weapon? Logic fail here, I think..
over 14 years ago
I logged in to NerfNow using my Facebook account! That is all.
Katana
over 14 years ago
Even I'm not a pyro player, and I was pretty surprised at the nerf changes. Sure, the airblast is a bit better, but I'm really a bit surprised if anyone thinks it's a big game-changer.

From now on, when I mow down my requisite 20 pyros, I will afterwards remove my hat and apologize to them.
MercenaryBlue
over 14 years ago
The recent patches were a massive buff to the pyro.
Fast, cheap, spammable airblasts.
Reflect mini-crits.
Synergies with the Huntsman.
Assist points on airblasts.
And damage fix on backburner/flare gun.

The new Flamethrower is a hundred time better than it was.
anonymous
over 14 years ago
a 70% DPS reduction in exchange for slightly improved airblast? * probably * not a buff

and also the backburner was terrible it was the least used item in the * entire game * prior to this patch
Merc
over 14 years ago
Mmmm sniper tan. :D
llama
over 14 years ago
Make a Medal Comic :3
Anonymous
over 14 years ago
If you think the pyro changes were a nerf, then I've got bad news: you suck at pyro.
Thndr
over 14 years ago
While the buff/nerf may not seem like an important one, it seriously nerfs the sniper who gets knocked up by other classes, or one who likes to throw an arrow while falling.

So in the end, they made the skillsman worse and made the lucksman better.
Thndr
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_28674]@gata[/url] They did nerf the huntsman. It's called the buff that allows the sniper to start charging the huntsman when he jumps. This buff changed it so that the arrow cannot be fired midair for ANY reason. If you have it charged and fall off a ledge? You ain't firing. >:|
sConed
over 14 years ago
The update really wasn't much of a nerf. Pyro was already a bit OP to begin with, so it doesn't really matter. It really only sucks if you're a w+m1 noob who doesn't use the airblast. Stop QQing and learn to airblast or use the other very useful weapons in the pyro's arsenal.
Falerix
over 14 years ago
I was reading a manga last night, so I totally read this right-to-left.
Catalyst
over 14 years ago
They made a huge deal of their 119th update, and it is kinda... underwhelming.
fpsdoug
over 14 years ago
Yeah, as if the Backburner didn't kill you fast enough.
CoolHandNuke
over 14 years ago
Is it just me or is it weird seeing the TF2 characters actually talk? xD
gata
over 14 years ago
I wish they would have nerfed the Huntsman instead. Too many people using it. It's way OP and it's not even a sniper!
Mad Cow
over 14 years ago
@Q. Fabius Maximus: So that they don't get sniped by any snipers.
Bonzi77
over 14 years ago
@Airblast The huntsman can now be lit on fire, even if the bow isn't strung. Also, if you put it away, it will stay lit. You don't have to glitch it anymore.


...Poor Pyro, he's going to be inconsolable.
Airblast ftw
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_28661]@Regal[/url] Agreed and loled. Also, I don´t understand the sniper thing. Can´t find any mention of the Huntsman getting stronger in the latest patch notes.
ColdCedric
over 14 years ago
The style of the comic seems to be improved a lot, I kinda like it. Also for that in the first time I never heard the Pyro...speak and I agree with XeonV that Nerf is a title for the story.
Regal
over 14 years ago
He's a pyro, not a hair dryer. Burning things is what he's supposed to do.
2033
over 14 years ago
@Airblast ftw: (s)He isnt really sad. (s)He's just thinking.
TF2 player
over 14 years ago
In fairness the changes to airblast are great.

The only major issue I see is that airblast has now gone from being a useful extra to practically being a key weapon of the class since the flamethrower itself is gradually being made weaker. Shouldn't a pyro...you know...burn things?
Airblast ftw
over 14 years ago
<----- Implying the new update nerfed the pyro. Didn´t know you were a W+M1 n00b, Jo.
Clone24
over 14 years ago
the heavy upgrade was worth it, more heavies now are roaming tf2
EvilGenius666
over 14 years ago
This isn't a nerf. So they dropped the damage on the flamethrower. It still kills people fast at close range if you can keep them in your flame. This is a big bonus for people who play the class properly using airblast. The rate of fire and ammo usage buff is good, but minicrits on reflects? Yes plz
QuadrAlien
over 14 years ago
Interesting to see that after another small patch, the Backburner now has more damage than the standard flamethrower, so it's a more viable alternative.

As a Heavy specialist, what I want to know is was the Heavy upgrade really necessary? ...Not that I'm complaining or anything... :P
Q. Fabius Maximus
over 14 years ago
I can't understand why the window would be gone
Dt
over 14 years ago
I'm very selfrespecting and pyro WAS overpowered.
HeavyTank
over 14 years ago
The Pyro nerf really sucks...no self-respecting player could ever say that the Pyro is OP, and yet they made his flamethrower nearly useless (-20% damage and -40% afterburn) just to make the airblast a bit better...
Nielsdejong
over 14 years ago
Wait guys, what Sniper and Pyro update?

I can't find information on that anywhere! O.O
Brandon
over 14 years ago
I want to get into TF2 just so I can understand these comics.
Falco64
over 14 years ago
[url=#user_comment_28641]@hunter[/url], because there were sniper changes. They can pull an arrow back in mid air, but still must be grounded to actually shoot, this lets them jump from high places and shoot an arrow immediately upon landing for a surprise attack. Pyro can also light an arrow anytime.
Hunter
over 14 years ago
Why does the sniper mention the Huntsman when there were no sniper changes?
Bdonski
over 14 years ago
Loling so hard at the m+w1s that thinks this is a nerf for pyros.

mini crit airblasts roll.
ANon
over 14 years ago
This Pyro can talk. This Pyro also has a flower cup. Girl Pyro?
Me or I, one of them
over 14 years ago
...Did Pyro just speak...
Already
over 14 years ago
Great to have the Pyro and Girl-Sniper back again, but did the Guy-Sniper + Girl-Demo arc end?
Demoman
over 14 years ago
<3 Pyro nerf
chris
over 14 years ago
i like the injoke with pyros mug, very clever
Lithium
over 14 years ago
I dunno about you guys, but I main as a pyro and I love the new changes. Airblasting has never been this much fun.
discrider
over 14 years ago
Not seen: Sniper complaining about the temperature of her coffee, and about the broken Pyro-stove
StarPilot
over 14 years ago
http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/46

Also, lol critacola
tsartomato
over 14 years ago
PYRO IMBA NERFBACK HIM!!!!!!1111111

kinda

reflectkills now is common and easy to do thing, even if just m2 spam
Oh God
over 14 years ago
Pyro speaks.
Z
over 14 years ago
oh boy!