90% of the difference is the thought process behind it, and unless you know the game you can't tell the difference.

Zoning with projectiles may look like spamming, but if you're zoning you want them to jump in.

Course, not like there's a rule against spamming, just beat em.

>pro gaming
>tf2

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The difference between Fucking Bullshit and Strategy is that the third left sticky bomb on Strategy is slightly closer to the second left than on Fucking Bullshit.

That is what makes or breaks your TF2 career.

Why would you activate CC/V-ISM/A-Groove to zone?

That remark about elite players doing weird things to screw with the meta? That's basically League in a nutshell. Watch people freak out whenever someone plays something non-obvious in a tournament, it's hilarious.

@Hedonism Bot: Sarcasm ftw

Bit of an error in the title, looks like it should read "A quick visual guide to the difference in terminologies between the elite of gaming and the filthy casuals."

Have you ever fought one of those dudes who, when attacking on badwater, sticky jump to that one door that the entire red team has to walk through and then trap it?

Cheap as hell strategy, but super effective.

You should see this replay of Ken. It'll blow your mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zd7T5Don5s

Hey, if you didnt want to be spawncamped, ye should've killed me first!

[url=#user_comment_130763]@Nerfnow[/url]: Continue making these, for I find them entertaining and laughsworthy.

See: Justin Wong, possiblly best fighting game player in U.S., playing Dan Hibiki, the STREETEST FIGHTER (AKA joke character): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIpdgmN9WV8

For example, a scrub will bodyshot to get a kill. They will use a full charge and edge out around the corner to get the shot. They will constantly do this for kills.

A pro will do the same not for a kill, but to take out or save a priority target or when a headshot would be a waste.

Actually, there is more truth to this than people would like to admit. They are tools that will produce an effect, a scrub scummer will use them as a trick to try to win, while a pro will use them properly in context.

I'm just making comic like this to see the comments section.

The only time you really see mass projectiles in actual professional tournaments is when someone picks Fagat.

Demoman is REALLY hard.

Stickies are REALLY balanced.

no sense....and not funny =S just pfff! XD

This sadly makes perfect sense.

Hmmm. Isn't the primary difference between Spamming and Zoning that Spamming is just throwing them out as fast as you can, while Zoning involves specifically timing the shots to force their opponent into a safe 'zone' that can be taken advantage of by suddenly doing something else?

Why can't I hold all this butthurt?

Marn already did that in TvC. Alex wasn't actually great, he just put him with Zero to troll people into thinking he was good.

What, you mean like Kusoru coming to America and winning a Marvel major with Joe/Frank/Rocket Raccoon?

Also the difference between spam and zoning is that you stop zoning when it becomes unsafe. Just throwing that out there.

Some better players are already doing it in tribes:ascend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMnIMi1E0HQ
Fuck the meta gotta cap fat.
And despite all logic it works.

So the artist is a scrub, makes sense

Oh and while it is important to have fun.You have more fun and feel better when you win.Afterall you buy a game to have fun,fun factor is also determined by you're winning factor.Uless you are emo or a masochist and buy the game to be humiliated and feel a loser even in a virtual world.

Ok so the morale is for me to stay off online games:/.Everytime I lose a troll has the nerv to say "it's cause I don't know how to play".And I am like "bitch I played tons of simialr games like this before",and he wold say something like "yah but this one is different"...when they are not:/

"It's okay due to the way I'M doing it and due to the specifics of this situation that you would never end up even doing." *hacks out a loogie while wiggling my muschache in a douchy manner.* "Of coures, a scrub like you would NEVER understand. Off with you."

[url=#user_comment_130659]@Siku[/url]: Oh god...the mothership rush. Even better was Huk's mass hallucinated Void Ray into Idra ragequit at MLG. Who said hallucination is useless? X-D

I have a tendency to play Urgot when the team has a good lategame already. It was funny how after M5 won with an Urgot bottom lane the reactions suddenly swapped from 'play a real AD carry, nub' to 'nice pro-choice, win us the mid-game, Urgot.'

You missed a golden opportunity.

For the differences between casuals and pro gamers, you should have made the Pro gamers red and the casuals blue. For an added bonus, replace Ryu with ken for pro gamers.

[url=#user_comment_130683]@AEIOU[/url]: There IS headshot in T:A, but it only matters for when you get a kill with it and nothing else (it give extra credit, as well as there's a headshot streak) Difference of pros and spammers would probably be that one of them know when to stop and mix it up.

How many of you seriously came in here just to debate the legitimacy of the specific examples in the comic? Just wanted to tell you how hilarious I found that, it made my morning.

Wow, someone beat me to the Kusoru, Dark Shitty God of Kusoge mention.

That was hilarious to see at FR (though I spent more of my time playing KOF and got on stream, just to get blown up)

Kusoru also won UMvC3 at Final Round XV.

One last note to the first thing, though- the actual biggest difference between the two is a scrub will just spam the heavy version because it's faster, whereas a good zoning game will mix up the speeds to catch attempts at jumping over and similar.

Jo, I'd actually recommend looking up some matches by a player named Kusoru. He basically has a tendency to do completely batshit stuff and make it work. Best example I can think of offhand is spending full meter for a tic throw to win a round.

You'll never hit me! You'll never hit my tiny head! It's so tiny! I got a frickin'... such a tiny li'l head!

RESPAWNING 12...11...

The first one I know all too well being in the competitive scene but my character, Vega or claw depending who you ask, gets a free command grab from full screen when they try shit like this.

The sniper is only as good as the number of people he puts down.

LOL, sticky demos.

[url=#user_comment_130695]@Halv2[/url]: considering how some maps are laid out, spawncamping sadly is a legitimate strategy. Last point in any payload or ctp map and most ctf maps in general come to mind. The difference between a noob and a pro doing it is that the pro knows when to do it and when to stop. Usually.

Hadokening should be at least be controlled by a pro.
and, as someone who is mainly a Sniper in TF2, I don't see the problem with hitting the body if the head shots miss. still gets the job done. I lose half a point, so what?

the last one is pure garbage, however. spawn camping is not strategy.

You forgot DubyaEmmOne / Proper Use of a Primary Weapon With No Range.

... okay, maybe not that snappy.

Other than the fact that Pros often do this to newbies before they can so much as take 5 steps, I got nothing really.
P.S. Remember we were all new to a game at some point.

first: do that, you lose, pros know when to stop
second: snipers are always annoying, you want bodyshots? look at Tribes: Ascend. There's only bodyshots.
third: if your team gets spawn camped, you're doing something wrong

You missed a key point in the "spamming" department: with spamming, the pro player is going to hit them. A lot.

[url=#user_comment_130652]@Dudemang[/url] Agreed, Na'vi, specially Dendi, make some of the most unconventional builds I've seen. From Quax/Exort invoker with blink and forcestaff instead of the "gotagofast" Quax/Wex that everyone else was playing, the carry earthshaker with crit, etc

Jaedong's amazing ensnare Queen into fast Hive in Shin Chungpoongryung led to a huge motivation for upcoming zergs to use what was thought to be a useless Zerg spellcaster, the Queen.

Technically Zoning is the same as spam...only one however knows what they're doing.

I got nothing against body-shots for snipers (I kill enough of the poor bastards as it is as a scout).

Fucking Bullshit is still Fucking Bullshit no matter what you call it. Hence airblasts, and balance.

Your "Some Pro Gamer is going to fuck around" reminds of me of HuK who decided to do a Mothership Rush at the very final match of a SC2 Tournament.

Sticking your dick in the metagaming pie is a pretty good way to ruin a fun dinner. To me, there is no sense in playing to win at any cost, because one of the first things you have to pay with is "fun", the main reason people normally even open the damn games~

If you wanna see metagame fuckaroundery, look at Na'Vi from DotA. Those guys are constantly screwing with the metagame and pulling stuff that's completely ridiculous, like Crystal Maiden supportive DPS builds, or jungling storm spirit. Not to mention the copycat tryhards who mimic everything.

Some pros do that already, Jo. Abusing the shit out of the metagame is very important in some games. In Magic in particular, the pros tend to be in a neverending circle of rock/paper/scissors trying to abuse the meta to victory.

(Morde actually got a nerf a few months later after everybody figured out how he owned and won)

One of my favorite "troll meta-change": Mordekaiser ez #1. Shield always up, never down. Hue hue hue.

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No offense, Jo.

It happens every now and then in HoN/Dota. Roaming Kunkka is probably the most memorable where one of the most effective carries in the recent meta was suddenly playing as a support.

And the damn hero is able to 1-shot a whole team when stars align, with good farm of course.

It was done with Super Smash Bros. Melee. Jigglypuff was regarded as a weak joke character, far too slow to be useful, just like its N64 counterpart.

Then some dude came along and swept a tourney with it, showing off how incredibly lethal Rest is, its incredible aerial game, etc.

It has already been done. We've seen some pros constantly troll the hell out of the FGC.

Also, the way the meta changes is people do lots of different slightly stupid stuff in increasing amounts. In LoL, you see that one tank does really well, you try two, if that worked really well, you try three, and so on.

First one: Who is he fighting? What are they doing? This matters.
Second: What else is happening? And the first one is still a good shot, it's a scout for christ's sake.
Third: Still a dick move either way :P

yes spawn killing is actually a pro strategy.
why don't you go spy noobs?

I have to agree with ... well everything but the constant hadouken... thats the only thing that would get on my nerves.

4 Support Kog'Maw

People do stupid things in tourneys and it worked.

As far as trolling the community, when my friend's rogue got server-first Twinblades of Azzinoth he put a spellpower enchant on them as a test. Two weeks later it was a hoot to see the little newbie rogues doing the same, copying him without thinking.

Well, it seems i am so "PRO"