Wonder how many hurt poeple will flock to Torchlight thanks to D3 failure.

Well, I hope you had fun with your abusive boyfriend.

I played torchlight II beta this weekend and I can say that torchlight II is more like diablo II than diablo III, its an awesome game that, if u are not a blizzard fan boy, u will need to recognize as a better game than diablo III

well, actually, Diablo in D3 is a female and he/she's got realy shapes of a lady.

Torchlight 2 is gonna make a killing if they wait a couple of months.

Then not only will they have the people who have long backed Torchlight over Diablo for various reasons, but they will also pick up anyone bored of Diablo.

Nice guys always fail, it's universal.
Next time you've got to be a douche like Blizzard, that's how you make the gamers fall in love with you poor mr Torchlight.

The lurker: DRM has nothing to do with piracy, it is targeting the second hand market.

I love how the pirates are like "Hey I'm gonna pirate it". Wanna know why we're being plagued by DRM? Go into your bathroom. Look in the mirror. See that person in the mirror. Yep. Your inability to boycott is further "justifying" DRM like this in the first place. Thanks, Benedict Arnolds.

[url=#user_comment_138809]@Anonymous[/url]: took you long enough

... wut?

Eh, fuck it. You're off the mark more often than not, and reading this comic is just irritating nowadays. Can barely read your tangential rants.

BUT ALWAYS ONLINE IS A FEATURE

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nah I think torchlight will be just fine, I mean so far the competition isnt really properly released (at least in the EU region), what with MANY broken installs.

There needs to be a last panel with the two of them in the car, and him not being able to explain why it won't start...

Jo, you forgot the panel with Endy sitting alone by the phone while D3 is out with his drinking buddies, while Torchlight hangs out with his D&D friends.

http://pastebin.com/hzVt7DWf
inb4 haters gonna hate

And I'm happy I didn't bought it, just like with heroes VI. I would be mighty pissed for paying 60 euros for a single-player game that I can't play when I want.

Well. I don't see myself touching D3.
I always considered Diablo a single-player game, and the always-online drm idea is terrible for me. Especially now that people can't enter the game after release.

[url=#user_comment_138754]@Kersplackle[/url]: Maybe they need better advertising then. *awsmface*

Its a damn shame you kids dont mention Grim Dawn, a game trying to innovate this damn genre.

[url=#user_comment_138750]@Cogzwell[/url]: Our generation who played D1 and D2, now has children, wife, dogs and bills to be paid, is a generation that does not see grace on things and live in good memories of good games hehehehe Warcraft 3 suck, long live to Warcraft 1

No, you had more fun with Diablo 2 because it was 10 years ago lol. I'm not sure why people just disregard every action RPG since D2 and like to act like no one got it right, but in all honesty D2... kinda sucks now. It's boring, it doesn't look good, bad voice acting, and the skills were bad.

Also, not pictured: Engie coming back by cab because Diablo guy failed to perform/was boring as heck, while Torch guy is having lots of fun with the other tans.

2 hours later...

The frist out advantage is more of MMO that build communities and lock players in. [url=#user_comment_138714] @Bob[/url], Torchlight is in no way the successor to Diablo, all it is to Diablo is that it was made by some of the same people and is a generic action RPG and dungeon crawl. One that was not even that good.

Wheres the bodyguard constantly checking to make sure engie has properly logged in every few seconds?
Or the velvet rope she has to wait behind to get a ride on that joystick because the guys handling login have OD'ed???

Grim Dawn > Torchlight 2 >>> Path to Exile >>>>>>>> Diablo 3

I can't visit nerfnow for a while again. One of the ads is Bieber...

And more intelligent people knows you can have a threesome with Diablo 3 and Torchlight 2.

Torchlight is the true successor to Diablo though.

Whatever. I'm still waiting for Torchlight2. Not interested in Diablo3, even though I loved Diablo2. Just... not interested at all.

Oh look, morons complaining about "lack of customization" when the customization in Diablo 2 was a sham. The fact was there were only a few good builds, and if you put stat points into anything other then Vitality aside from the bare minimums required for gear, you were doing it wrong. It sucked.

I'll probably pirate and enjoy Diablo 3 more, but I'll only actually PURCHASE Torchlight 2.

Don't support bad business practices, kids!

Oh yeah, the DRM sucks a lot huhahuauhahuhauha

I have fear about D3, but... playing game at this time... well, the game é very good, it is D2 with better graphics and gameplay simplificted (bad english), the sound is very good and the scenario is very dark!!!!
I don´t play Torchligth yet, but i will go buy him too

Also, Shana reference time. "H-HE'S JUST A TORCH! >//<"

Diablo 3 will probably be a wonderful game for the pirates when they crack the always-online DRM and remove the horrible lag it introduces in the so-called "singleplayer"?
Oh, and is anyone enjoying the authentication server going down and making their game unplayable yet?

I REALLY hate online DRM, lack of LAN play AND lack of single player. While things are like that, I will never buy D3. Hell, not even for $10.

I'd love to know on what do you base that "Diablo III will be, simply, better". It might be, for you. But it makes you sound awfully like a douchebag.

Well, I've been playing D3 this morning, seems like D2 with less customization and better graphics. At least on the surface, the rune specializations might make it better, but they are all unlocked by level instead of specializing to reach them it appears.

Personally I plan to pick up both. I think there is plenty of room in the market for both games (they're not launching at the same time, and T2 is only $20). Especially, like others have said, I doubt Runic Games ever dared to think they could knock off D3.

-Tsk- Poor little guy! Just like in RL...forever alone.

I do really hate DRM and lack of LAN play, along with Activision in general. Plus there is the 66% discount in price for TL2. Also I like its cartoony style.

I just fail to see how D3 could possibly be good.
What new does it bring to the genre?
Cus if it brings nothing, then why would I want an unfaithful sequel that shits on it's own lore and artstyle.

As I've seen it a modernized version of Diablo 2 would be better than Diablo 3.

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...] Considering that despite this Torchlight 2 is represented even on random comics such as this one by a number of players... I think we can be pretty sure that Torchlight 2 will be a, i relative to it's investment, a huge success.

Torchlight 2 was never meant to go into an absolute competition with Diablo 3. Torchlight 2 has been developed over a shorter amount of time with less people and thus does not need anywhere near the amount of profit Diablo 3 will require to be considered a success.

I'm getting Torchlight 2, it doesn't require me to be online to play my GODDAMNED single player game

GENTLEMEN, BEHOLD.
http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/05/14/blizzard-fixing-game-australias-mess-giving-diablo-3-to-those/

[url=#user_comment_138642]@Leah[/url]: Are you talking about the stupid beta? Because Diablo 3 the beta is one part of just the first act.

Diablo 3 is only 2 hours long on normal.

So much hate in here. Not gonna stop me from having fun with D3.

You forget that fact that Torchlight 1 and 2 is made by the guys who made the Diablo games... while Diablo 3 isnt.

[url=#user_comment_138608]@Roam[/url]: I got news for you. Torchlight? It started out as a copy of something else... and Torchlight 2 is a copy of Torchlight 1. So, either Torchlight 2 is auto-crap, or your theory be full of holes.

To most people who played a lot of Diablo II, every other game of the same type was just a fix for your craving of Diablo while waiting for Diablo III.

Diablo 3 also had like 10 years more development, and more money thrown at it.

Not to say either of those are surefire methods of making a good game (see Duke Nukem Forever and Brink respectively).

Funnt, I played Diablo 1 and 2, and even though I liekd the first one, I found the second one boring.

Torchlight, however... Well, I had a blast. I still have a blast. So, I'll just skip diablo 3 entirely and get Torchlight 2 :)

People judging D III based on the beta, which was basically a demo, and already saying that anyone who enjoys it is somehow the 'wrong' kind of gamer. I somehow imagine these to be the same people who said that the SCII campaign was too long, forcing Blizzard to say HotS would be shorter. Dicks.

Y U NO TALK ABOUT PATH OF EXILE:<<<
In my opinion it's way, way better that both torchlight and diablo. Got beta key and i'm having blast with it.

Hahahahah. Expecting Diablo 3 not to be shit.

Seriously, once they make gear-for-cash an implemented part of the game, complete with Blizzard taking a cut, you're looking at a cynical cash-grab.

To this day, I dust my Diablo Original disk i got so maaaany years ago from my uncle, and still have fun.

To this day, I install Diablo 2 and do multiplayer with my friends at least once a month.

To this day...playing Torchlight feels like playing Fate, just better graphics. Great, not enough.

At the very least, I can still play my games on Steam when I'm disconnected from the internet. Which happens to me often. And certain Blizzard games are known for having lengthy maintenance times, so it is a big deal for me. Though to be fair, I'm not sure if you get kicked out if servers go down.

Diablo 2 is a classic. Diablo 3 is going to be living in it's shadow and trying desperately to recreate the magic elements that made it so addictive and enjoyable. Games that "try to be like something" have a habit of missing the mark, sometimes by a wiiiide margin. Keep those fingers crossed.

Daniel, I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who uses a straight razor. One blade good for life and does a better job than any other kind, even your super deluxe Gillette 42 blade super razor.

Waiting for Grim Dawn.

If you actually enjoy D3, you are everything wrong with gaming today. Enjoy your hand holding and lack of customization.

Not gonna lie, D3 will do better. Why? Brand recognition.
Not looking forward to the 'online only'. It just feels unnecessary for the single-player part.
We'll see how TL2 does. I kinda liked the first one, but I found a couple of game-breaking bugs that, to my knowledge, never got fixed.

You know, Torchlight 2 will have a level editor. I don't remember Diablo 3 announcing that.

Torchlight 2 will be bought before Diablo 3 for me.

It's not that it will be better then torchlight its just going to be/is more popular so yeah torchlight is screwed.

Because concurrently playing 2 similar games is unthinkable. /eyeroll

I just hate how brain dead the skill "tree" is. I like having an actual tree instead of "pick this skill and that's it" but to each their own.

[url=#user_comment_138584]@Freezestar[/url]: This may be the may be the wrong comment to make this comment. But I just wanted to say something. (this comic is still good though)

Remember when this comic was less opinion, more random comics or series of comics?
Those were good times.

(Not that I don't think he should not give his opinion. Everyone should give their own opinion. Just leave your opinions in the commentary and make the comic something about said game)

That's not a Torchlight! His name should be Torch!

[url=#user_comment_138549]@Falos[/url]: I know right? Signing into an account.. shit that's rough. There are no other benefits to Steam, nope, none at all. Let's blindly hate on subjects we have a limited understanding of.

[url=#user_comment_138536]@Japa[/url]: I feel your pain brother

This. This is the story of my high school life. Though in this case, I wouldn't mind losing her to D3, since he's better for her...

PS: those people going MINE in the photonotes beware... that's the big D's girl you're trying to MINE right there :D

Also, [url=#user_comment_138567] @Why[/url]: Wisest opinion. ... Now to find the time to PLAY both.

DRM? Not one of those playing singleplayer in the middle of nowhere... not affected by lack of Internet.

Auction House? Not using. Not even close to using. Problem? Nope

Game?
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Check back with me a week from now, because complaining about something which is not even out yet is stupid.

even if Torchlight is just as good, Diablo will have the advantage with its name brand. I've never even heard of Torchlight, but all my friends talk about how they're going to get Diablo 3

Just buy both!

TorchlightII has some good improvements.
On my opinion D3 and TLII are really two different games with different skills system.
I'll enjoy them both.

>Unless you REALLY hate online DRM

'sup. I still refuse to even install steam.

My funny thing is I still remember my D2 CDkey, cause I had to punch that in so many times reinstalling the game. DT6D C22H 617b 7cmj

[url=#user_comment_138532]@Geary[/url]: Yeah, I've seen hundreds and thousands of others say the same. You know what that means. Yeah: http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/673

Hey, it could be worse. I'm a Path of Exile fan.

Don't worry Jo, Diablo 3 is quite horrendous.