IT'S WORLD WAR HANDSETS!!!

Take care, Unless your handsets start to kill each other for you amusement!

Quick and dirty, this is what you need to know about this adapter: [*] I exircpeneed some initial trouble using my PS3 controllers to play PS2 games, but have since found that they work for most games. So this USB adapter is NOT necessary to play all PS2 games on your PS3. [*] This DOES enable use

[url=#user_comment_141683]@Obby[/url]: It's gotten to the point where the fact that gaming rigs come bundled with a new OS that makes the price tag worth it - else, you'd need to buy that OS and that alone would cost as much as the homebuilt itself.

[url=#user_comment_142086]@vaxx[/url]: Actually, that controller design is Nintendo's, from when they worked with SEGA on the Genesis. Technically Sony & Microsoft stole a design from Nintendo, who helped design it in the first place.

so we got sony ripping off nintendo's motion stick, microsoft ripping off sony's controller and eyetoy, nintendo ripping off microsoft's ripped off controller,
and millions of fanboys arguing over semantics.

Microsoft copying Sony? What madness is this?

Can't help but chime in on the gaming PC comments..

It's like buying parts from Home Depot or getting something preassembled for a higher price (much higher, usually, perhaps about 3x in the case of computers?)

Also, @ Platypus, the influence is probably greater from Apple, but in my opinion, only because Nintendo was influenced first.

An interesting side note - Apple began development on an official Ipad controller after the Wii U was announced.

[url=#user_comment_141671]@Vulpis[/url]: I think I see what you're going for here, but the form factor of the Game Gear is drastically different than the Wii U controller - the dimensions, size, and capabilities are completely different. Actually, I think the only thing they have in common is a color LCD screen.

who the hell "buys" gaming rigs? only people stupid with their money do that.

if you can't build it yourself, more often than not you know someone that can anyways.

", so in retrospect a Wii U would prolly cost 5 times as much as buying a gaming rig. "

meant to say the opposite actually

Incidentally, I can't believe everyone's hailing the Kinect as "new" or "innovative"... it's basically a souped up (and more laggy) EyeToy.

Or is the new generation too young to remember those?

[url=#user_comment_141668]@Obby[/url] -CONTINUED- Also, I said BUYING a gaming rig, not building one. Those who play consoles are usually casual folks (excluding console exclusive games), so they aren't really tech savvy. So building a computer from scratch is usually out of the question.

[url=#user_comment_141668]@Obby[/url] I have no idea how you figured a rig would cost you 6000 dollars to match a Wii U or something. I estimated that the Wii U would cost 300 dollars, so in retrospect it would prolly cost 5 times as much as buying a gaming rig.

It's funny because only one of those companies is actually 100% original.

[url=#user_comment_141642]@Crysalim[/url] Actually, I'm not seeing much of a copying of iPad here in the form factor at all--if anything, it's shaped more like a large version of the old Sega Game Gear, maybe with some influences from the PSP and Ninty's own GBA. iPad is *just* the screen, without the additional controls.

[url=#user_comment_141648]@MeowMix[/url] because gaming rigs HAVE to cost six thousand dollars? Whatever. I've seen wonderful builds made with a $600 budget. You just have to watch for sales and shop around. You won't find that happen with a console, though. Not for a long time.

[url=#user_comment_141648]@MeowMix[/url] I can answer this two ways. "They don't cost six times as much." "You also get more than just six times the experience and possibilities out of it." Both are true.

I see the Pow Ha ha, but no sign of Spy here. I am early it seems.

@loojie

There should not have been any N64 games designed to use buttons across the left right and middle sections of the controller. Any games that were asking you to use the d-pad and the analog or Z-button were poorly designed.

[url=#user_comment_141641]@isten[/url] because buying a gaming rig will cost you six times as much(or less if you're building it yourself) than buying a Wii U or any future consoles bundles. And that's not factoring external stuff like: keyboards, mouse, pads, headsets/speakers, etc.

[url=#user_comment_141642]@Crysalim[/url]: I disagree about WiiU & SmartGlass. It's something MS should have been doing ages ago on Win7phone. Apple is kicking their ass on vertical integration. MS is trying to get out ahead of an Apple TV not copy Nintendo.

The Wii U controller isn't copying the Ipad just because of the touch screen, but also because of the size and shape. Satoru Iwata had a lot of praise for ipad/iphone games before the controller was announced, I probably wouldn't have made the connection if he didn't do that.

i cant beleive people still play on consoles in 2012. i just cant.

Long live to Ataris´s Jaguar Control!!!

PS2 had Eyetoy, whos the copycat now Microsoft ?

[url=#user_comment_141624]@looje[/url] well i do have my problems with the ps3 controllers they are so small in my hands, same with the Nintendo DS light. There should be a bigger one for the grown man (ps3 controller, there is the ds light xxl thankfully). I can not even imagine how to hold the GB micro

[url=#user_comment_141585]@Tue[/url]: Nope. N64 Rumble Pak came out before DualShock.

[url=#user_comment_141551]@AEIOU[/url]: That actually IS Nintendo. The modern controller design was first seen in the old Game & Watch series.

[url=#user_comment_141595]@RedMattis[/url] wow, i didn't knew that. either way, it would make competition, and i must say sometimes it is needed to copy a bit, i like the ps3 controllers and i hated those of de N64 cause people with small or medium hands had trouble using most of the buttons at once if the game forced you to

You all remember the stick, ya know, from the days before the wheel and fire. Mighta been before your time. That was the original motion controller, all the resta you bums are ripping off that innovation.

have you all forgotten the POWERGLOVE? THAT was the original Motion Controller ;)

[url=#user_comment_141533]@HitBoxMaster[/url] Dafuq does this have to do with PIPA SOPA or ACTA?

Wait how is the Wii U copying the ipad? Pretty sure the DS had touch screens before that, and atms did before that. The iphone/pad's biggest contribution was craming more into a device than before...
That said move definite ripoff of the wii, at least microsoft tried something different.

MegaDrive and MegaCD, nuff said

I don't really get this one. MS and Sony copied the Wii, which then copied the Ipad for the Wii U controller, then MS copied the Wii U controller for SmartGlass.

So the comic should be (with > being copy): Ipad > Wii U > Ps3/Xbox. With the regular Wii, of course, not having copied anything.

[url=#user_comment_141591]@Looje[/url] That wasn't because Microsoft are some sort of cooperate angels. Monopoly laws would have forced them to split up into two companies if they didn't.

well as fun as this discussion is, I think I will go play on my PC! with my KEYBOARD and MOUSE!

all in all, the competition Nintendo and sony made them work harder to survive, or better say, the competition made them do their very best to be the best.

just like microsoft gave a loan to apple, if there is no competition, there is litle improvement so i like the way it is.

another flame war... Good job breaking it Jo.

Where are the ponies?

[url=#user_comment_141576]@Hyperstar96[/url]: Not even close: http://www.n-sider.com/contentview.php?contentid=231

I'm pretty sure that the dual analog sticks came from Sony first... I also love how they never changed their gamepad design, so you never had to get used to a new controller for every generation. It just feels right at home.

Rather certain Nintendo was first in (pretty much) all those cases with the exception of rumble pack.

A series of NES controllers had a microphone input

One word, Eyetoy

[url=#user_comment_141576]@Hyperstar96[/url] Game Boy had an 8-bit 8080 derivative in it. I don't know of any game systems using 4-bit processors. Even the Atari VCS had an 8-bit CPU in it.

[url=#user_comment_141548]@Octopiss[/url] (Sorry for the double-post) Wrong. Sony was going to create a CD-based add-on for the SNES, but Nintendo refused after Sony got greedy (as usual) by demanding 100% of the profits.

[url=#user_comment_141570]@RadiCalvo[/url] Game Boy was 4-bit. Also everyone knows what a Game Boy is, so you don't have to say it's a handheld from Nintendo.

[url=#user_comment_141539]@Dome[/url]: the very first used in consoles was the Eyetoy for the PS2 and later came the Dreameye for the Dreamcast, both were a respone to the use of webcams on PC, but the very first camera for videogames in general was the Gameboy Camera for the classic 8-bit portable from Nintendo

Is it just me, or does the Sony motion-controller look like a pimpin' cane?

My keyboard and mouse scoffs at the sight of these petty arguments.

With my arcade stick snickering in the background.

I had a PS2 for years along with a Gamecube, and to this day I still hate the lower left analog stick on Sony's controllers. Maybe the WiiU's right stick wont be so bad cause it's not for movement. But really, who the hell cares about originality anymore, just combine and become a superpower already

Seriously, how many possible controller designs are there that can still be comfortable in most people's hands. Everyone knows the 3rd party ones stink.

These puny consoles and their flushy controllers make MAC's, pads and personal computers laugh.

Why have'nt you extinct already?

The first one to create a horizontal controller with directions on left and buttons on right is the real victim here. Although I don't know which company that is.

As long as I can use the controller comfortably, I couldn't give a flying feather if someone else has a similar design.

Nintendo and Sony designed a console with SNES-style controllers, it didn't work out, so Sony continued alone with the PS1. The controller was a SNES one, basically, but with a shitty split d-pad and grips. Then they added analog sticks.

I just love it when people complain when game companies use ideas that other ones had and were successful with... despite how that is a EXTREMELY common practice in all sorts of businesses and such types of competition is the basis of most modern businesses.

[url=#user_comment_141539]@Dome[/url]: Technically, I think because the PlayStation move uses a camera to determine distance and position of its remote and was released more-or-less around the same time/generation as Kinect it works.

[url=#user_comment_141538]@Potato[/url]: They are all motion controllers.

Shouldn't there be a playstation eye for the Kinect to yell copycat at? Otherwise it should just be the 360 controller.

That said, for all the cries of "copycat"...

Did anyone else notice all of them have the analog sticks in different positions?

Request version with joystick moefication!
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It's the secondary controller for the WiiU. Used so that third-party games have something easier to develop around, while still having the WiiU motion/tablet controls to mess with.

If they're looking for something completely original, they should probably make a... controller/remote hybrid in the shape of a plus or something.

@Nick The Wii classic controller I'm guessing.

[url=#user_comment_141531]@Nicolas[/url]: Is the new controller for the Wii U

I'm first and i would like to know who the black controller at the top right would be ?