[url=#user_comment_145620]@HuddaHuddah[/url]: "Fallout isn't the same without a critical rocket to a child's nutsack." Couldn't have explained better... I still play Fallout 2 again at least once every year, it's just that good. Fallout 1 was awesome too but I really dislike the timer feature. FO3 was really depressing.

...No, this is pretty much my experience with Fallout 3. I don't know what I did wrong, but most enemies towards the end weren't worth the huge effort to kill, so I spent my time as a scavenger having radio stations praise me all the time.

"having 1 in inteligence"
How did noone catch that yet. Or the imageboard approach:
INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE INTELIGENCE

Fallout 3 had a lot of cool little moments. The problem is that's all it was: cool little moments daisy chained together to keep a nonsensical and mediocre plot "interesting". Bethesda has never been known for good writing and never will be.

*Wasteland GAME (singular)

[url=#user_comment_145976]@vash_ts[/url] Of course not. It was made for lovers of turn-based pure RPGs, and fans of the original Wasteland games. FO3 was made for FPS players and Oblivion fans.

Change! Ya got change? Aw, come on help a guy out will ya? Come on, change!

after playing FO3 and New vegas, I decided to try fallout 2

turn based combat?
miss half of the hits every turn?
almost intuitive commands?

nope, not made for me...

New vegas. Play. It.

Fallout 3, in some quests, comes off as something that should have been post-Fallout 2. In others, it looks like it can't be set any further than a few decades (if not just years / months) from the War.

[url=#user_comment_145870]@Drrrr[/url] Which was, again, one of my issues with FO3. For anyone who wants to whine that Capital Wasteland had bad water / was targeted specifically: Carbon Filters and The Glow. Oh look, solved 1, 2 shows West wasn't better off.

[url=#user_comment_145862]@The14th[/url] Yes, 'family-friendly'. FO3 is pretty childish, overall. I never got any sort of 'mature' vibe out of that game like when I played the original two.

"Family-Friendly"?!?

(CONT) the world almost 200 years AFTER the bombs dropped look like 'day one post-bombing'? It makes no sense. The world of Fallout was never about the world looking like shit, it was always about 'how do people live and survive in this NEW world that has sprung out of the ashes of the old'.

[url=#user_comment_145785]@Spede[/url] "People are more scared and the world looks like it has gone through a Nuclear War." - Uhh.. the people in FO3 are the happiest bunch of chipmunks since the Scooby Gang. Seriously, you walk into the first settlement and it's 'hi there, friend! Here, have a free house!' Also, why would (CONT)

@Family friendly?
"Which part is family-friendly? Blowing mutants to bits, prostitutes, tons of gore and language, or the ability to murder any and all?" - You mean the cartoon gore, the prostitutes you lay next to in bed in a more vanilla way than dryhumping, and the immortal children.

Play New Vegas mang

PLAY NEW VEGAS

Oh, and I also collected things in the original games as well, so nothing has really changed for me in that regard. Packrat and Strongback all the way.

Fallout 2 is my all-time favorite game, but I still liked F3 and NV. Looking forward to Fallout 4 in Skyrim's engine.

in my honest opinnion I prefer fallout 3 as it is much fresher world compared to new vegas. People are more scared and the world looks like it has gone through a Nuclear War. In New Vegas it just looks like...too...eh in a way people have settled down and live their life without living in ruins.

I'm sorry I haven't played FO1 or FO2 but I absolutely loved FO3 and FO:N! FO3 being my favorite.

@Family Friendly?

I think he is referring to the difficulity :P

1 and 2 are classics and great. 3 is pretty awful. NV is kind of a hybrid. The writing approaches 1 and 2, but it still has the crappy engine of 3. Obsidian games are always must-buy for me even though the publishers tend to screw them over.

I also backed Wasteland 2. Can't wait for that game.

I hated Fallout 3, and liked Fallout 1. But I thought New Vegas was great. You should really try that, it's a lot better than Fallout 3.

Which part is family-friendly? Blowing mutants to bits, prostitutes, tons of gore and language, or the ability to murder any and all? I'm not against your opinion or anything, but you lose credibility saying something as silly as "Fallout 3 is family-friendly."

Fallout: New Vegas is the REAL Fallout 3. It feels like Fallout.

Fallout 3, on the other hand, is more like Elder Scrolls: Washington D.C.

So yeah, I think I will try FO1, maybe it will be much more fun.

Also the comic is spot on, oh man do I hate going back and forth storing my extra stuff on the Nuka Cola vending machine.

I never played old Fallout series before. So FO3 is my first. I say after wasting 12 hours of my gaming time I can say that the game is BORING and the NPCs are crap. Tbh I don't know what made people love this one. They say I have to explore more, so I did. Still bored.

Also, for some reason, I just can't get into Fallout 1 and 2.
The game just feels too... slow for me.
I just don't feel much adrenaline when I'm slowly swinging a pipe at a R.U.S accompanied by the epic musical score of dead air.

... No Mutants Allowed is that way, Jo.

How can you guys say that New Vegas is better than Fallout 3?
It's the same game with little to no differences, if anything the "Wasteland" in New Vegas doesn't feel like one at all, you never get that true feeling of emptiness and desolation you had in Fallout 3

But you are right, Fallout 1 and 2 are the best , F3 is a big piece of shit.
F:NV tried to fix some stuff, but the engine sucks 60 niggers

*2010

Fallout 3 was the best game of the 2000-2012 decade, period.

I'd stick with my imagination and Fallout 1,2,tactics. Bethesda really tried to make a good fallout-like game but its too crude and... soulless... I enjoyed Borderlands much more, it was closer to fallout than fallout 3, and as it turned out, it was a better diablo-like than diablo 3 too.

[url=#user_comment_145663]@Deject[/url]: thanks but i don't think i would ever use it since i originally borrowed the game from a friend, and there was way too many things wrong in Fallout3 imo to just fix it with a mod.

Didn't like the interface of 1, 2, and tactics.
Waiting for GoTY edition before I'll try NV.

What I didn't like about Fallout 3..
Redundant character mesh's and voices.
Little moral variety.
Mostly unplayable melee.
Oodles of glitchy textures and sound files.
Listening to the radio more than once.
Bogus ending.

As far as being an almost fps, it was fun..

What I loved about New Vegas is that it's the same writer who did Fallout 2.

That's why everything about the NCR feels like a natural extension and there are references everywhere to Fallout 1, 2 and Wasteland.

Oh man I sure will be hanged for this, but I LOVED Fallout Tactics a lot although everyones bitchin that it wasn't "canon".
But when I look at Fallout 3 in my eyes it is way superior. :P

The sloppy design that I'm talking about is that when you start the game, you are forced to run around the outskirts of the area until you can get to Vegas. If you want to try to go there from the start, you have Deathclaws and Radscorpians blocking the way. Personally, I do like wastelands more.

I will admit, I have not played Fallout 1 or 2, but with Wanderer's edition I found the game was a great deal more fun than anything I found for New Vegas. I did like that New Vegas mod that turned my character into a beast and I had to keep eating everything to not starve though.

@Yar a Pirate: You should try Fallout 3 with the Wanderer's Edition mod.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/10/13/10-essential-fallout-3-mods/ Pretty much all of these, and the game is great. Challenging and fun. New Vegas was Fallout 3.5, but with a sloppy design.

Fallout 3? Yeah, i hated it. But New Vegas turned out as one of my favorites games this last years.

@New Vegas blows
What are you babbling about lack of energy weapons? I never had an issues with that, just hunt some fiends, and take a trip to Bg MT. As for power Armor, I am still annoyed that a) you need to be trained to use it b)they nerfed the hell out of enclave power armor(fallout 3).

Fallout 1 and 2 will always have a place in my heart.
Rest in peace, interplay. You did great back then.

Also; survival is all about wasteland hobo's convincing children to shoot their daddy and get sodomized by super mutants.

:)

wasteland hobo simulator: New vegas

yeha that sounds sweet...

Fallout 3 is pathetic, New Vegas should be considered the third game in the series. It's objectively superior in every way.
Just. . fuck the Capital wasteland.

[url=#user_comment_145561]@Mac[/url]: I see what you did there XD

[url=#user_comment_145634]@Drrrr[/url]: I'm pretty sure it was just that they would get a bonus if they got GOTY. Which they didn't.

diferent games, same background.
And yes, when strolling in the catacombs of the wasteland I normally found 100 containers with 200 bottle caps, equally divided.

Soooo... Fallout 3 had writing?

Fallout 3 had bug issues, but so did 1&2. 3's failing was that the plot's so-so & setting contradictory, like half the dev-team was told "Fallout 1 Prequel-get" and the other half "Fallout 2 sequel".

I've played Fallout 1 & 2 rather recently. Yes, nostalgia does factor in to many players' accounts... but they're still damn good games. Similarly, I played Fallout 3 recently, and it has its own hit and miss aspects. Fallout 3's story tends to be its largest failing (200+ year untouched tent-towns)

[url=#user_comment_145634]@Drrrr[/url] I agree with everything you said, but I'll make this one point. Fo3's development involved many, a majority even, of Fallout fanboys. I've always found Fo3 to be more like Love-Letter to the game they once knew, not a real sequel. It IS fun too...

[url=#user_comment_145634]@Drrrr[/url]: Careful with the 'drones' comment. someone can like a game you don't, and dislike a game you do, without being a self deluded fanboy. This goes whether the game is older or newer (I STILL don't get the general FF7 pedestal personally).

(CONT) didn't do so well, and apparently Bethesda put some little bitchy fine-print that said if the game didn't do well to a certain degree, Obsidian wouldn't get any money for it.

The Curse of Three claims another victim. So sorry Fallout had to go through the curse.

(CONT) Who didn't even get PAID, mind you, because Bethesda cheated them like the assholes that they are by forcing them to release the game prematurely, so it was unfinished, and thus riddled with bugs. Partner that with the fact that FO3's fanbase didn't like it, and so the game (CONT)

(CONT) Incidentally, a lot of original FO1/FO2 fans DID enjoy New Vegas, but that's hardly surprising since New Vegas used a ton of content and ideas from the ORIGINAL FO3 that Black Isle was working on, since FONV was worked on by Obsidian (CONT)

Pretty much spot on. FO3 was a betrayal as far as old school Fallout fans go. Hell, the entirity of No Mutants Allowed, THE Fallout fan-community, loathes that game. Meanwhile Bethesda's loyal drones pretty much go on lambasting the old games and singing nothing but praise to FO3. (CONT)

@Alcarin Kitsune: There are less ghouls in FONV because Mojave's farther from most 'sources', and you don't really see a lot of either NCR or Super Mutants, so maybe Mojave's just not where they are (There is a lot of NCR, but it still is a small part of how large it is by the time of FONV)

The can's 20 caps :D!

"I don't want to be chained to the past so I will not say the old ones are best"

i do.
The old ones are the best. Point.

Fallout isn't the same without a critical rocket to a child's nutsack.

I'm so disheartened that classic games are being turned into FPS games like Fallout, X-com, and Syndicate.

Of course maybe that's nostalgia clouding my judgement, but still...

F3 took the best ideas of 1&2 and put them in a 3D engine. It was a best-of compilation. Maybe that was great for people who hadn't played 1&2 already. New Vegas, though, continued the story of the world, and hasn't that always been the real star of the series?

Learn English you fucking twat

New Vegas was put together by Obsidian, the same people who made Fallout 1 and 2. The story follows what the original Fallout 3 was supposed to be until the company tanked and the IP was bought by Bethesda. So New Vegas feels a lot better.

Sad thing is that Bethesda cancelled the Fallout Online MMO that was being made by Black Isle, the original owners of the franchise. Fuck Bethesda for bastardizing the series even more.

Yeah, I've always regarded Fallout 3 as The Elder Scrolls: Fallout. It's just different, not "bad" different exactly, but different.

Yeah, but the old ones ARE the best. Though New Vegas was pretty solid.

I've got a dumpster in Goodsprings where I've stored all my shit, good and useless. I only keep useless that I can take to Big MT or if I can use it for schematics later.

Wasteland 2 beta probably comming out in 2013. Look no further :)

Can only agree in regards to Fallout 3. Having played both Fallout and Fallout 2 quite alot of the feel went away with Fallout 3. Which I blame on the fact that it wasn´t made by Bioware tbh. Could have been so much better if it had :)

[url=#user_comment_145600]@Quinch[/url]: 3eventhoughitsnotaBiowaregametechnically} Good story, beautiful atmosphere, giant world, boring dialogue amd characters {NPC and otherwise}, and mediocre gameplay, especially in the RPG department. Someone needs to tell Bioware about that saying concerning fixing unbroken things.

Fallout 2 remains as the best game I've played. Ever.

I'm with you, brother. Fallout 3 was awful in many ways (like shallow story and black and white decisions) and New Vegas, as close as it was to the original ones, still lacks part of the feeling of the world (I don't see many ghouls and NCR doesn't employ supermutants anymore).

Fallout 1, 2 and 3 {haven't played NV yet, is it still a buggy mess?} are typical sufferers of Bioware Sequel Syndrome, I think.

1} Great atmosphere, good story, tiny world, primitive gameplay
2} Good gameplay and companions, wider world. Butchered atmosphere, story and dialogue in return.

@ xenosphobatic that's fine and all if you like guns and melee weapons, but those were never my thing. I play Fallouts to use the power armor and the plasma rifles, which in New Vegas's case pretty much means I'll need to get Jury-Rigging as a perk ASAP in order to maintain my gear.

Look at it this way, it could be worse. They could make another Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel.

you've all probably seen this, but here's the "just one more hat" TF2 animation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZouYNu3Z6k&feature=plcp

@New Vegas blows: While I agree with you about how the power armor and energy weapons situation (not to mention EVERY FACTION TELLING YOU THAT YOU MUST BLOW UP ONE OF THE LAST BASTIONS OF ENERGY WEAPONS AND POWER ARMOR), the game doesn't lack for being awesome.

Just run around punching people.

It did for me at least, no conflict between the Brotherhood and Enclave means that the amount of power armor in the game is abyssmally low, its hard to find the Energy Weapons I love to use, and it just doesn't feel like theres a war going on between the Legion and NCR.

Hehe, didn't have to wait long for the "you just say it because of nostalgia" types to show up.

Oh come on, digging through the garbage was the BEST part of Fallout. Desperately scrounging for stuff, making gains by small increments, it makes the end game when things are exploding into bits of green goo from the gun you cobbled together out of empty string bean cans all the better

Eh I tried New Vegas and didn't care much for it; the combat was boring as shit. Everyone went on about how big and open the world was, but I could care less to explore it if the meat of the game is no fun. This is the same reason I haven't played Skyrim for more than 10 minutes.

New Vegas is the proper fallout, much denser world, much better writing, the same unique blend of dark humor, silliness and mature themes. The DLC also are worth checking out. And there were many moments that got you by the throat - the first meeting with the legion is very memorable.

Praising games for their merits isn't nostalgia. FO1&2 look like crap now, but the setting and atmosphere in them were something Betasoft will never create. Bigger, more shallow, more family-friendly sums is up nicely. FO3 might be a semi-decent game if they hadn't called it Fallout.

[url=#user_comment_145575]@lol[/url]: F3 may or may not be better than F1 and F2, but surely is a -different- game. It made huge success, yes, but so does Farmville.

A lot of people being blinded by nostalgia talking about how great Fallout 1+2 were and how inferior Fallout 3.
Kind of funny how Fallout 3 was overall a bigger hit and got mostly better reviews and more people to play it then it's abysmal precedessors did. Oh well.

New Vegas is better than Fallout 3 to people who played the first two game. Part of that could be accredited to it being made by obsidian. Still way too many annoying bugs that were never worked out. Also if you want something more like 1&2 try waiting for Wasteland 2 and see how that is.

Hello ! I am not very good in english so excuse me if i didn't understand, but if you are searching a Fallout comic, you have :

Gone With the Blastwave

A webcomic.

Most folk who played the original Fallout games prefer New Vegas to Fallout 3. I personally loved New Vegas's story, characters, and factions, but Fallout 3 definitely had a great atmosphere.

I'm not sure why New Vegas gets all the praise, but then I always much preferred fallout 1 to 2. New Vegas for me was essentially Fallout 3 with better combat, factions and a lot of empty map locations.

I prefer Fallout 3 to New Vegas I just wish neither of them were named Fallout.

haha banjo2E, strangely enough the first town (shady sands) is one of my fondest gaming moments. First thing I realized was that only two people were armed with real guns.

When I left the population was 0 and I had the childkiller perk.

Isn't Fallout 3 essentially Oblivion with a post-apocalyptic skin?

Or perhaps a better analogy is like changing X-Com from a turn-based strategy game into a FPS.

I agree with Vee. 200 years after the war and most of the radiation should be gone and civilization should be farther along than what you see in Fallout 3. How am I supposed to believe that people have been living for 200 years off of prewar food. Fallout 1, 2, and NV have working farms.

Fallout 3 sucks, but try New Vegas it's actually good.

Just play in New Vegas.

Whereas, when I tried playing Fallout 1, I spent five minutes trying to figure out how the hell the interface works (apparently you're supposed to use the right mouse button for literally everything), another five minutes getting roflpwnt by rats, and when I got to town, I had nothing to do there.

I think it's a matter of which games you played first. I liked Fallout 3, due to having played and liked Oblivion. I logged a hundred hours or so, but quit playing when I remembered why I quit Oblivion (namely, the ridiculous mess of unfixable glitchiness that is everything Bethesda ever makes).

Couldn't agree more, I had hundreds of hours in Fallout 1&2, 3 I had maybe 15 and I was done with it. It just lacked something. Its like it tried to take itself too seriously, but pouring clean water into a river that flows into the ocean will fix everything!

yeah Khan FurSainty, new vegas definitely felt more fallout-ish to me than 3, probably because of the desert and the gambling but still, 1 and 2 are some of the best games ever for me while the new ones just lack something. i never even finished 3.

Fallout 3 is way too much survival way too late in the Fallout timeline. And just putting things from Fallout in your Oblivion With Guns and supplying "moral" decisions like "Do or don't blow up town of innocents with nuke!" does not make it a Fallout game.

Most everything with a 3 seem shallow.

Fallout 3 more sandboxy than fallout 1 and 2...
What?

The second panel is actually a great representation of Fallout 1 and 2. New Vegas is a mix between the originals and 3.