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I don't use equalizer, axtinguisher or gru! And my demoman loadout uses ALL unlocks. What do you have to say to that?

Vanilla Spy is actually really good once you figure out how to use the regular revolver (or just can't consistently headshot with Amby like me), 50+ damage at close range mauls scouts if you can hit em 3 times. Battle Spies forever!

@Some Spy: >Implying the Dead Ringer isn't a crutch.

Not pictured: My younger brother.

He does not run anything but vanilla on principle, and tops the boards like it's nothing.

Even with Pyro.

I raged about scouts being too overpowered at the start of TF2 ( But I mostly got pissed off at demomans then scouts )

OH GOD
OH GOD
OH GOD
*rapeface*

Vanilla SPY ALL the Way
The original watch is the best

I main as Spy, an absolutely hate this situation. I shy away from DR Enforcicle like a respectable Frenchman, but this totally ruins my play stile. I use the YER, C&D, and Amby, and I can't survive without. Also, soldier minus equalizer might as well be rocket jumping with no health. DEAD.

I actually play Soldier with the default rocket launcher most of the time. The Black Box and Liberty Launcher are both great and I use them frequently, but sometimes that fourth rocket just serves you better and without the downsides that both the Mangler and the Direct Hit bring.

it saddens me when other spies I see rely on the enforcer to get them their kills

the ambassador is so much more efficient when used properly, but hey I can live with the norm revolver

also, I still use the norm knife

but I still cry when items servers down,

no deadringer

Yeah... everyone's got a class they're good at. I normally don't W+M1, I try to use the airblast, and heck, I don't really use melee weapons anyway... I'm not so great when it comes to melee fights.

oh right and uh

*Troll face*

sticky launcher is op, needs nerf,

valve says they cant nerf the damage anymore without simply removing the weapon

how about make its RANGE so horrid that unless you actually charge the launcher its basicly gonna sputter out 2 inches infront of you.

competetive players get no say on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbaGodU_Gkw
This song pretty much translates TF2 Classes in 1:18 seconds, really.

I use nothin' but vanilla! :)

Wow, this one's pretty damn funny

Im a Vanilla spy :D Strange Knife + Invis Watch

I dunno about Vanilla Pyro. He can still spread flames pretty nicely, take out Flare-Gun-Usin' Pyros, guard the Sentry, Spycheck, repel Ubers...

My problem when the loadout server goes down is that my stranges get no credit for any kills I get until it's back up. :\

[url=#user_comment_118143]@m[/url] No your not. I love when this happens to. TF2 players rely to much on their new weapons to win the game. They defiantly need to be taken back in time back to when us Grandpa TF2 players played to see how it was.

I LOVE when this happens.
I can't be the only person who likes valilla-ish, can I?

Same expressions when viewing Demoman's porn collection.

I use pure vanilla Spy except for cosmetics. DR Enforcicle is horrendously overpowered and designed for those who happen to be mentally impaired and can't use anything else.

Demoman, forever overpower.

Default Soldier isn't that bad, but Default Heavy can be a bit difficult to get used to, I would mourn for my Holiday Punch though. Default pyro is pretty fucked over though, no W+M1 crits or Puff n' Sting.

I main Pyro, I only used a Strange Flamethrower, pretty much everything in secondary, and usually a Axetinguisher, but I hardly use my Axe unless the situation calls for it.

I 'Vanilla' with Scout in that I use the fish and standard load out.

VANILLA PYRO, is da best for me after soldier, seriously, if you play him a lot than you will notice that de only ones dangerous to you are long distance engi/sentry and other pyro's(there are exceptions.

yet i cant imagine it as soldier without equalizer, just a siting duck when low on hp

Everyone saying "I use vanilla pyro/spy" is bullshiting. Vanilla soldier, OK, shitty launcher but not bad, Vanilla demoman, not bad, that's what I use actually.
Vanilla pyro is AWFUL, It's hard to axe people after airblasting and W+M1 sucks. And vanilla Spy has Invis Watch, and it sucks.

The only thing that would upset me is soldier. I cant use the normal rocket launcher for shit.

I like Vanilla everything.

Yeah, screw Axtinguisher, I bring Homewrecker.
Now, take away my Degreaser, and I CUT YOU.

I actually play mostly vanilla anyway, except Sniper. I never leave home without my huntsman, but mostly because once I picked it up, it just started to feel like cheating having a long-range hitscan weapon for headshots. That, and always taking the homewrecker with the Pyro <3

[url=#user_comment_118048]@bp[/url] The spy should not be able to 3 shot a 125hp class (and medics if damage spread is favorable) at medium range with no downside. The gun is broken and needs to be nerfed. Ambassador at least needs a no-scope headshot to be able to do that kind of damage.

Vanilla pyro all the way, everyway.

Actually, Losing the G.R.U and The Equalizer, while kind of a bummer, doesn't stop me at all.
Losing the Sandvich sucks, but hey, I don't play heavy, so who gives a fuck.
Pyro, on the other hand.... FUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

Scout is overpowered. (QQ)

Haha, no, I play Scout.

In before a bunch of people say they play Vanilla Loadouts to look "creditible."

Lol Vanilla Sniper

I play vanilla spy or ambassador/invis watch these days. It still catches people by surprise and is the most balanced loadout for spy. All the others are either too obvious, do not let you manage the enemy's paranoia levels, or do not give a spy enough "uptime" to be useful.

I can never play spy without the Cloak and Dagger.

When item servers are down TF2 actually gets a lot more fun for me. No bullshit upgrades, no ridiculous particle effects everywhere... it's almost as if the game was designed without all that crap originally!

Yes I would be upset about the loss of my equalizer, but i'd be dead without my black box

I hate when the Item Servers are down. I dont use the Axtinguisher, the Tomislav, or the G.R.U, or the Enforcer...I think they´re just cheap. I for myself like playing Vanilla Pyro, Soldier...

I can deal with vanilla louadouts fine. Except for the default invisiwatch. That sucks.

TBH... I used a vanilla pyro quite effectively on 2fort, 27:11 kd xD
I was surprised at how well I was doing, and I was stealing intel too, then I took a sentry gun to the balls. :|

[url=#user_comment_118044]@Slim[/url]: If the DR enforcicle allows me to be more credit to team then fuck you I'm going to use the DR enforcicle and be happy about it, rather than being hampered by suboptimal loadouts. There are more game-breaking things in TF2, such as sentry jumping (some leagues do allow the wrangler.)

Disciplinary Action > Equalizer. Teamplaying Soldier is superior to pussy Soldier. And not as affected by item server down.

Vanilla Pyro is inferior to other alternatives, tho. The Flamethrower has no good reason to be used over the Degreaser or the Backburner, and the Fire Axe, well...

I hate Enforcicle spies. When using the DR, there is literally no downside. 20% extra damage and silent kills for what? Loosing your knife for a few seconds when set on fire? How often does a spy get away when set on fire? There is a reason why every competitive league bans those weapons.

Now you've done it - bored with the conventional console shooters this comic inspired me to hop on steam and download the game >.<

I love this, whenever I got this mssg I would be like..... back to demo. A+

As an Amputator/Gunslinger I feel restricted but gladly accept this situation because of one thing: NO DEAD RINGING!

I Almost use totally vanilla loadouts :3

[url=#user_comment_117982]@Discrider[/url] Let me guess.. You play a "unbiased" Demoman right? ^^;

When this happens I just switch servers or wait in spawn till it reconnects. I assume Valve is to blame though not actually sure who to *shakefist* at...

[url=#user_comment_117986]@PointyKnives[/url]: For full modified vanilla, add the Holiday Punch. It's even got the Fists' taunt!

My personal favorite for Heavy loadout is a modified 'Nilla.
Iron Kurtain (Functionally identical to mini, but more stylish)
The extended mag Shotgun (Family Business, I believe it is called)
Fists

/continue rant

and many of you will argue against me, but when was the last time you got mad at a soldier that managed to direct hit you in the face when you were 2 feet away from him?

Vanilla TF2 is the way TF2 is meant to be played. I said right from the first medic update that once they add new weapons, they are gonna add new weapons for every single class. There will be serious balance and game changing issues that will wreck what TF2 is.

And bam I was right.

:')
THESE ARE THE HAPPIEST DAYS OF MY LIFE!

Now if only the Heavy had a slower spinup, the game would be temporarily perfect.

I refuse to play as pyro without my Degreaser/Axtinguisher or Gas Jockey set! And I'm finding it hard to use the shotgun as engie when you have a pomson. I mean, c'mon... PEW PEW *cloak/uber rage*

Actually, my pyro loadout is mostly strange normals, so vanilla just makes me go, "Blast, no sledge to help the engineers."; however, lost connection makes me a sad engie, because I like my baby sentry. It's cute, goes places you wouldn't normally put guns, and most people under-estimate them.

Vanilla heavy is actually just fine. There are some situations where I'd want the Killing Gloves of Killing for some clutch crits. Other than that though, Sasha is great and having the shotgun for run and gun while you get in position for Sasha just works. Also, f**k the sanvich!

[url=#user_comment_117950]@gimmethegepgun[/url]: Good to have but it's not something you need at all You could run vanilla sollie in comp TF2 and do just fine, let alone casual dicking about with your friends

Demo happy because Demo can enjoy scrumpy in the middle of the fight

I can play vanilla pyro just fine . Although my preferred pyro load-out is Degreaser, Flare gun and Homewrecker.

Vanilla Snipers work fine too.

I, personally, want to apologize for your Enforcicle encounters on the behalf of all Spies who hate the Enforcer and stay away from the Spy-cycle unless we' toying about. I'll stick with my Strange Knifey and my Strange Amby (who I call Sorry) over a downsideless higher-damage output, fireproof Spy.

@HIPSTER BEFORE IT WAS COOL: Except the Equalizer is great to have with you, way more useful than the shovel (useless).

I ABSOLUTELY FUCKING LOVE IT WHEN THIS HAPPENS!!!

God dammit, that means all the soldiers stop using black boxes and no more puff and sting pyros and none of this milk man crap. Straight, honorable, fun, vanilla TF2 just how I remember when I first started playing.

?? Vanilla sollies are just fine though

I main Degreaser shotgun Axetin. Pyro, and you'd be surprised how effective vanilla pyro can be...
When everyone else is forced to go vanilla as well...

Engie-tan would be delighted to know that the enforcicle-ringer spy is stuck with vanilla if this happens.

I've been playing Vanilla Spy since...well Vanilla. The fact that many Spy items are (just about) straight upgrades (Spycicle, Enforcer + DR, Saharan ammobox thieves) doesn't hinder me, since most people playing these days are terrible anyway.

Ubersaw and K.G.B are OP weps. Medic can live with the regular medigun while heavy must have a primary wep loadout.

life's not worth living without an ubersaw, dummkopfs!

Demo put on his MANN FACE.

Pyro, though, has to be very clever or very good with a shotgun to not be considered (a(n)) ammo refill/kill fodder/wasted server slot. Every other class class has enough power or escape capability with stock weaponry to not have such an issue, even for new players.

Ohh boy is it fun to be on 2fort when this happens...

Every class is good, even without their sidegrades and unlocks. I find it always better to play stock.

Its not so bad for the soldier, he has the most versatile stock loadout in the entire game!

Demoknights to Stickytrappers, There is no such thing as an underpowered Demoman.

But I see a few Vanilla Pyros around who aren't F2P rookies.

FIRST
snipers have it pretty good still, i want a new SMG

meh i dont use G.R.U much and i prefer to not use axtinguisher