Assuming that the DLC was created by a separate team on a separate budget, but then why not just work on the game as a whole?

This, and the cancellation of Megaman Legends 3 has put me on the path of never buying a Capcom title ever again. Maybe if Capcom stops being idiots, but that's a real stretch now isn't it?

Compare to BlazBlue CS2: Extend, another fighting game.

Price of disk: $40
Fourth game in the series
Comes with all previous DLC characters for free
All of the original story + offline modes
Better online and training modes

I'd buy your games if you had any idea how to sell them, Capcom.

[url=#user_comment_129653]@Hyshinara[/url]: that might be crazy enough to potato

On the disk until they're unlocked or downloaded it's really all the same Fully priced games taking the free to play or freemium model pay for features model while still charging a full price Because some people will pay the same for an inferior products and others won't mind paying more the rest

[url=#user_comment_129493]@Empi3[/url]: Keep them shielded from mainstream media and feed them N64 until they are like... 12. Something like the Amish do, but with crappy media instead of alcohol and cigarets. :P

Skullgirls. Fifteen dollars for a complete, balanced fighting game. GET IT NEXT WEEK.

Shit, maybe I'll donate so Jo draws the Skullgirls chicks. The game's full of boobs anyway.

And this is why Capcom is one of the worst gaming companies.

They deserve nothing.

I smell a boycott...

Basically companies such as capcom and EA refer to us as crackheads. This is what these "Great companies" think of you. Stop buying extra copies of a game you don't want because a dev says he does not get paid enough on a blog, Stop supporting companies who force rip-off DLC and passes. SELF CONTROL

To those of you who hate the on-disk content and yearly updates BUT STILL continue to throw your money at capcom PLEASE stop supporting this sad excuse of a company and the death of non-microtransaction based console gaming. Publishers call major DLC purchasers "Whales" at business summits.

It does not matter if the whole game is just an extended F2P game with a 60$ price tag. MLG players and non-tech news following gamers will still buy this shit up anyway. If stuff like this on-disk shit pisses you off stop being a tool and stop supporting companies who love scamming customers

I used to be a honest customer, I even had some game developers I liked and who's game I always bought like Bioware.
This however changed quite some time ago, over and over again the gaming industry spat into my face. I never stopped playing games, I however stopped paying.

Would have been fine with it before coming here and learning they are with-holding content thats always on the disk...Companies can go fuck em selves im hacking my game.

Why He-Man, why?

[url=#user_comment_129493]@Empi3[/url] Don't buy them video games and and push, I mean, convince them to take up another hobby like sports? Back in my day we spent as much time outside as possible, of course that was because our parents beat us with sacks of potatoes at home, but that's beside the point. Kids today.

I don't want my kids to grow up in today's shameful game industry... what do?

Fighting games are not 'button mashers' - the scene has become popular enough that it is now part of MLG. There is strategy and technique involved in these titles and it takes huge practice to become good at them. I know too many of you are 'screw console games at all costs' and 'FPS for life' tho

Capcom did the same thing with Mega Man: Powered Up. Basically what I'm saying is they're a bunch of dicks.

the shadow should be downside from that light

Man, hackers get all the fun :(

They're getting ripped off.
It's not doing the right thing, it's being a sheep that's not doing the right thing by not complaining more.

Also, I HAVE THE POWER!

This is how Capcom sees DLC: It's the same thing as how they'd put additional characters on arcade cabinets but not let the player use them until a timer expires. Putting them on the disc removes the need to compartmentalise the game code to allow for swappable DLC modules.

If they want to get more money for their product, that is perfectly fine. it is their choice. At least have the balls to demand the cost for the full product up front rather then this "lock your disk" bullshit that shows they are designing towards DLC rather then a complete product

Why does this seem to remind me of phones that have all sorts of extras built right in that you have to pay to unlock.
I've heard people compare this to unlocking channels on cable, but there is a difference between a subscription to puts off the cost and being locked out of a product you bought.

Oh just like Mass Effect 3.
Pirates have all dlc's and no DRM.
Well at least it was a shitty game.

[url=#user_comment_129215]@Hyperpoly[/url] I know this is the internet, but people are stupidly incompetent when it comes to detecting sarcasm. Implying + Blasphemer! + logical fallacy + extremely obvious troll + intentionally misspelling "video games" = somebody still taking what I said literally. Son i'm dissapointed.

fucking ripp off

Budget game-publishers used to pull this scam, too--put 5 titles on a disc, but only allow you to install one (via encryption and a password on a slip of paper in the box), demanding you pay for slips of paper with passwords for the others. These companies are rightfully not in business anymore...

[url=#user_comment_129296]@Plasma[/url] Cute, but wrong. I buy a disc, I'm paying for everything on that disc, and should have access to everything on that disc. I buy a digital download, I should have access to everything included in that download (if you want it to be paid DLC, make it a separate download, idiots!)

Just one more reason not to buy Street Fighters V Tekken. That and clinically obese mega man...

i hacked my xbox360 long time ago, and i would hack it again just to play with characters on disk. Viva la revolucion

i dont care about being good or bad, they are exploring us, and i'm no idiot to fall for that

Best solution:
Buy Skullgirls next week instead- from developers that actually care about their fans. Artwork is really impressive on that as well.

KOFXIII is also a good choice.

At Final Round, VF was shown, that's worth getting as well.

It's a new level of lame if the exklusive content does already ship with the disc you just bought. That is capitalism at its best and they just beg for their product to be pirated.

This DLC that comes shipped on the 1.0 version of the disk just pisses me off. I bought the content, why can't I use it? Shuma-Gorath was shipped on the 1.0 version of MvC3 as well as some unfinished Jill models. You still had to shell out to buy them.

For years now decision based games have slowly been systematically pushing the "good players" give up tangible rewards just for a good conscious. So now when it comes to situations like this, those "good" players will pay, even if they feel gypped. It's all conspiracies and what not I tell ye. etc..

Yeah this a real friggin embarassment!

It's not just the gaming industry. Hell, the gaming industry might be the tamest one. But they are trying to win a fight they can't win, and only make matters worse.

The gaming Industry wonders why piracy is so rampant, its crap like this that keeps it going, all it does is punish paying costumers and keeps the pirates in business

Well if you buy a game and it is on disc you already own everything on the disc. This is why pc gamers have advantage, can't brick someones pc for fixing a error on disc locking the content out. DLC is fine as long as you download it but on disc is buying cake and paying extra to eat it.

At least, we did the right thing, excelcior! Why are you all laughing?

Also, YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO THOSE EXTRAS ANYWAY! If you paid for, what, 45 characters, you get 45 characters. You're not then allowed to complain because there were more characters you can't use.

Jo's comic, about time, is the only valid complaint out of this whole thing.

This entire discussion is completely devoid of even a basic sense of computer science. So here's a rundown:
DATA AND INFORMATION ARE NOT THE SAME THING! That the character data already exists on the disc is absolutely meaningless if you can't play as the character anyway!

The real solution to Engies problem is not to hack SFvT, but to pick up Skullgirls next week for 15 dollars, because it's cheaper AND the better-made product.

Feels good to not be a fan of Capcom.

Man, Eternia must be going through a mayor hunger crisis. He-Man needs to put on some weight!

Perkins: That's why game companies and other software industries are moving away from the idea of selling a product, and are trying to acclimate us to the idea that we are not purchasing an object, but a revokable privilege to use their software.

The moral of the story is that if we pay for BS DLCs, there will be more DLCs increasingly blatant in their BSness.

I might be upset if I gave a damn about button mashers. Alas, I do not.

Pirates get all the gi... DLCs.

All hail the pirate bay! The bay of goodness in the ocean of a little too greedy megacorps.
p.s. I still prefer "if I like it I pay for it" way. And I dont like day 1 DLCs.

I saw this video somewhere where this lawyer talks about hacking discs. Legally, you are allowed to do this to your own disc since you own the physical disc itself, thus anything in it is yours. The publisher's lawyers may bitch and whine about it, but they have no legal grounds to sue you.

the moral is that dlc is becoming the bane of gaming.

[url=#user_comment_129240]@MrTT[/url]: But sometimes they ARE assholes and they DO deserve it! Day One DLC? Iffy. ON DISK DLC?! No go.

the conscience they did "the right thing".

... Hackers all feel they did the right thing too via various justifications. (typically boil down to "they are assholes so they deserve it")

or you can just wait for the PC version to come and hack that instead with no troubles.

Day One DLC I don't mind.

Requiring that the player actually cough up extra dough to get things that are actually on the disk? That's total BS.

I'd be even slightly less horribly pissed off if SFxTekken hadn't turned out to be a piece of shit.

For the record, the Deadpool's ham handed PSAs are better than all the PSAs of the 1980's Saturday mornings combined:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPwyl0BkjMU&feature=relmfu

You!

In the past you unlock new chars/costumes by beating hidden hard bosses, or by playing a certain number of matches, now you gotta pay? Wtf is going on?

Oh, sweet sweet ice cream hax. Why can't I hack a REAL sundae to be four times as big for the same price?

@The Pope

way to not read what poor k. chop wrote

[url=#user_comment_129207]@Manwhat[/url]: and cheating gives you all the good stuff. just like politics!

[url=#user_comment_129204]@DBG[/url] 80's-90's cartoons like He-Man and G.I. Joe where known for having anvilicious, ham handed PSA's about how being honest and good was it's own reward, and that if you did good things then good things would happen. As anybody over the age of 12 will tell you that is not the case.

do people still play button mashers? I mean.... fighting games?

I don't think they do

[url=#user_comment_129207]@Manwhat[/url]: A good game can easily be ruined by terrible decisions of publishers, as SFxT and many games before it has shown.

[url=#user_comment_129204]@DBG[/url]: Basically its saying old cartoons like He-man, GI Joe, Transformers and the like which all tended to have a morale lesson at the end of the show where lying ... being good gets you no where.

I want to hate Capcom ... but Dragon's Dogma looks soooooooo good.

i would have hacked it

What does Engie mean about He Man?

@Poor K. Chop

Implying that developers aren't above being unscrupulous and entitled just like we humble gamers? Blasphemer! Developers are paragons of virtue who are always right! We should be grateful they even let us lowly plebs play their creations! You don't deserve vidya gaems!

sounds like bioware made a fighting game.

I already have them unlocked. Cashcom have become more like Scamco, that's the real reason we got SF x Tekken.
Good thing for me, as I don't have to pay for the Disc Locked Content.
Capcom can continue doing this, it will not bother me the slightest bit.

Maybe gamer entitlement isn't the problem, rather developer entitlement?

What He man supposed to be about?
P.S- I HAVE THE POWER!

I wouldn't buy a car that stops working when I'm offline.