Sibby has shown me that Sniper is OP once he get's some upgrades in MvM. And Star has shown me that even a Demoknight can kick ass in MvM. So really anyone can be awesome in MvM, as long as you all work as a TEAM, and have one Engie... You always need an engie in MvM.

''Demoman'' THAT SNIPER'S A BLOODY ... soldier???

''Soldier'' F..k your boos you one eyed drunken cyclops!

''Demoman'' AAAHHHHUUUUU!!!!

''Demoman gets drunk''

@Lord Bravery
are you kidding me?
I go brutal christian sniper on those scrap mofos.
I charge in with my knife in hand and kill at least 4 before returning to my frontier-post to continue killing with my rifle.

so please, stop saying all snipers are useless

FUKKEN SAVED

Scout, is,

aweseum.

if used right you can get more money per kill then if a heavy was on his own, and it very easy to get ALL THE MONEY get the bonus easy.

scout can't win a battle on his own, but he makes it much easer for whole team to win the war.

@Jo

Go play some Killing Floor on HoE then say scoot will be useless

And then the gamemode comes by and it turns out that the Sniper can turn his sniper into a rail gun.
Seriously, One well placed shot in a hallway and you have tons of new scrap.

@TF2 Player
Like a hatter, bro. Like a hatter.

Soldier with Cowmangler, upgrade reload speed + shot speed. enjoy the flying gears.

Scouts got the shaft ya say?

... I don't you've seen what an upgraded F.A.N. can do to the hordes.

@Lord Bravery XD you mad bro? YOU SO MAD =D

Sniper is a useless class played only by babies. And women. And women who are also babies. Thin-wristed cowards. They're always hanging back getting kills but never doing anything to help achieve the objective. Every Sniper on your team is a handicap. Even the best of them barely assist their team.

Best part of Nerf now is tf2 comics. Remember story about pyro? :)

actually, a good sniper is better to have on your team than a good soldier. anyone that steps in his line of sight is instantly killed, thus making uber build-up and sentry upgrading much easier. there's a reason he's in the "support" category in the class selection screen...

Man everybody here is talking about the Scout!

But what about the others!?

Also would any of you like to slap that female Medic's ass, In a sexual way!?

Scout actually has to play for the team now, as it provides the team with money more easy. especially under bonk influence.
Also, a horde of engies, with maxed dispensers, max sentry rate of fire and widowmaker *could* be op.

AND: Damage boosters like sniper's jarate actualy BENEFIT THE TEAM!

spy seems like it will be most useful from what i have heard, sapping robots just seems like ridiculous, interesting to see what the red tape recorder does to them to if it is available. a hacking skill for the engineer wouldn't be unreasonable and could be great to. can't wait to get home and play.

Given that the material so far doesn't show a spy equivalent on the machine side and the scenario is defensive in nature, the balance of power is definitely going to be in favor of the Heavy.

im with meh stop bagging on the snipers itsnot funny anymoe

oh hey another bad sniper joke. Could of done something actually funny.

hey sniper seems really good on mvm

D@V!D - Don't forget, that's just what all Scouts get out of the box, since we don't know the full extent of what each class can upgrade and how, yet.

I think Scout can be good for very aggressive forward defense, as long as there are some stout lines he can rely on should he fall.

Probably a minor downside, but all those bottles and upgraded weapons will occupy valuable slots in the inventory.

Scout didn't completely get the shit end of the stick, he is healed every time he kills something and he gets a whole lot of passive bonuses.

Gotta say I happy to see you doing comics on the current TF2 update. You missed a couple over the last few months and it's good to see.

Gotta say I disagree with Jo. Extra money for upgrades for faster upgrades is great AND if we can switch classes mid game then we can easily earn some fast cash as scout then switch to a fully upgraded other class when we no longer need cash.

Just saying, know it's not an official game mode, but rather a mod. Sniper can crazy useful in VS Saxton Hale and Freak Fortress mode if you know what your doing.

Not worried about balance, Valve knows what its doing.
Through canteen bonuses and some extra roles, everyone will be of value.
Now who's that cute medic we haven't seen?

Actually the sniper might be very useful for taking out the robots carrying the bomb.

I think the scout gets health regen from the money drops, so he should be okay

The ultimate goal is to have fun. If everyone likes the same class and are happy with it, let them be.

With his instant respawn, scout = zergling rush. I love the sound of the spies, though.

Nice typos Jo. A canteen is not a "who". Neither is a grenade launcher.

[url=#user_comment_160387]@DracMonster[/url]: according to the steam forums the money drops are divided between the team

[url=#user_comment_160451]@Zacsi[/url] I dunno, Five heavies or soldiers and one engineer looks pretty solid.

I hope that there'l be some system forcing you to all play as different classes or at least a 2 class limit.

Jo, this is vALVE we are talking about here.
Balance is never the problem.(not in long term anyway)
Usefullness of a single class is never the problem.
Lots of idiots playing the same classes is always the core problem.
Hate the player thats unwilling to learn not the game/mechanics.

The Scout's instant respawn sticks out to me. In a game mode where being at the right place at the right time is the difference between life and death, speed is important, and scout has all the capability to be the glass cannon that can take out heavy targets to buy time for the rest of the team.

Look at it this way. It's reverse CTF where you're constantly on the defensive. Scouts are an aggressive class, not defensive. Where the Scout is going to be good is not against the horde but hunting the hunters. Sentry busters, Bowman, and the Medics bots. Think Payload defense scout.

I think scout will be useful for harassing and picking off medics and snipers. Also the crit cans last 5 secs, he should be able to fire all 6 shots of his scatter. That could take out any QF medic heavy team.

If she had blue hair, I'd say it was little medic-chan all grown up.

The cash is given evenly to everyone, according to a valve employee on the steam forums

You have piqued my curiosity.

Oh, also I wonder if the larger cash radius means you can steal others loot?

Scout might not be bad -- getting more healing and instant respawns look good on paper. (Haven't played yet -- might suck in practice.)

Hey wait a minute... Is this really going to be in the game or what?
Cu'z I don't see The Scout turn in to a Heavy if this is going to help!

[url=#user_comment_160300]@Kayeka[/url]: Well Scout do receives several perks in MvM -Instant Respawn -Larger search radius for money collecting -Can restore health from picking up money

[url=#user_comment_160344]@Hazama[/url] Ah, yes, the fine art of troubleshooting, known by IT everywhere. Let something slip through, and you get yelled at for not doing your job. do your job right, and you get told you did nothing 'because there weren't any problems anyway'. Let 'em take a few shots, *then* cap them.

Nope, looks like it failed, Medic--otherwise, he'd have turned into an Engineer. After all, what better way to fight a machine horde than with another machine horde? :-)

[url=#user_comment_160278]@Seangief[/url]: I love spy, but I will only play my favorite class when my team can survive without another class, which is almost never. But I hate when on payload I sap every turret and kill defending soldiers or heavies, and someone still says I'm useless >.<

Its still Killing Floor!

[url=#user_comment_160278]@Seangief[/url] Ironic, but easily explained. When you feel your team is not helping you get close to the objectives, you switch to a class percieved to be good at working solo so you don't need to rely on your team. It's a false assessment, since these classes need beefy teammates more than any other.

And to answer the question everyone's doing since MvM was hinted at: Yes, sappers works on robots. No, it doesn't fully disable them like it does on Engy's buildings.

Yeah, I doubt many people will play scout on this mode. Not completely useless, but mostly supportive, leaving all the actual fighting to their beefier friends. And the medic. You always need a medic.

Don't you guys find it ironic that when your team is on the losing side, more and more people opt to go sniper or spy, when we should be picking anything BUT?

bu...but what about jarate!

I will join your server and play as a sniper just to spite you.

So need to reinstall and play this as spy.

The site mentions that scouts get extra money pickup radius and instant respawns.

HHAHAAH, i hate snipes too jo, i hate snipers too.

Instant Uber, just add water... I really like the Canteens, Especially since the medic can upgrade to give his heal targets the effects too. A single medic can give both crits and uber at the same time finally...

i imagine the sniper is more for killing the big dudes quickly and quickly killing the guys that buff the other robots

I'm going to go heavy brass beast, family buisness,stock fists with ammo cantine

I wish they'd just release it already!